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Eddie, I like what you say here. Why we are so violent and greedy is hard to explain, but it can't all be the fault of priests.
There are all the politicians too!

I have a book, published in 1998, called GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond. Subtitle: A short history of everybody for the last 13,000 years.

I might read it again. Very thick book. Have you read it? It won a science book prize.

GG.



Eddie Larry Wrote:
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Susan stated
> On what basis do you think they did not
> anthropomorphise these forces of nature?? Do you
> think they realised they were natural forces of
> nature?
>
>
> Of course they did. They gave them special names.
> Of course, we give hurricanes male and female
> names nowadays, so we are just as
> anthropomorphic!
>
> I don’t know anybody talking about flying horses
> anymore. Perhaps they think that way in England
> but I just don’t know anyone.
>
>
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Susan again
> If that were true, then there would be a cessation
> of people killing others because of the others’
> beliefs. And, of course, the word God would lose
> its authority because the religious leaders
> claiming its existence would be shown to be
> spreading falsehoods.
>
>
> Violence is a survival trait of all living things.
> It is human and part of the goal of religions is
> to control human violence. They certainly fail at
> times but that is because humans are bad, or weak,
> or sick. Science may study human moral rules but
> it does not create them. Spiritual people create
> them. And then use religion to support their
> moral ideas. Human violence is really tough to
> overcome but that is because it is based in Nature
> itself. And we are probably going backwards in
> that regard nowadays.
>
> Happy Saturday,

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Free will or not? 1194 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 240 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 204 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 187 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 178 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 178 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 180 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 167 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 181 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 160 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 165 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 182 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 182 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 177 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 156 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 165 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 176 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 169 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 158 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 166 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 164 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 168 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 168 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 163 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 160 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 159 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 173 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 153 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 172 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 163 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 159 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 161 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 160 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 161 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 168 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 167 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 162 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 173 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 168 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 164 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 164 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 165 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 165 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 191 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 174 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 169 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 165 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 165 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 163 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 169 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 156 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 160 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 165 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 160 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 146 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 172 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 159 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 160 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 170 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 168 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 193 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 191 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 149 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 157 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 162 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 157 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 163 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 164 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 153 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 180 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 154 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 180 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 170 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 168 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 162 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 155 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 169 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 159 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 171 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 174 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 153 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 172 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 154 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 153 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 159 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 152 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 149 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 148 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 162 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 160 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 151 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 157 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 162 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 149 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 293 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 168 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 151 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 163 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 155 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 167 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 143 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 132 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 144 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 146 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 173 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 165 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 184 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 158 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 169 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 149 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 158 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 149 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 169 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 156 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 157 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 173 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 150 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 148 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 161 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 162 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 191 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 191 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 179 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 161 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 179 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 163 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 178 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 155 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 172 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 160 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 187 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 171 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 176 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 174 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 172 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 179 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 182 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 169 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 170 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 176 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 199 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 198 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 189 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 193 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 159 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 163 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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