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Eddie, I like what you say here. Why we are so violent and greedy is hard to explain, but it can't all be the fault of priests.
There are all the politicians too!

I have a book, published in 1998, called GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond. Subtitle: A short history of everybody for the last 13,000 years.

I might read it again. Very thick book. Have you read it? It won a science book prize.

GG.



Eddie Larry Wrote:
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Susan stated
> On what basis do you think they did not
> anthropomorphise these forces of nature?? Do you
> think they realised they were natural forces of
> nature?
>
>
> Of course they did. They gave them special names.
> Of course, we give hurricanes male and female
> names nowadays, so we are just as
> anthropomorphic!
>
> I don’t know anybody talking about flying horses
> anymore. Perhaps they think that way in England
> but I just don’t know anyone.
>
>
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Susan again
> If that were true, then there would be a cessation
> of people killing others because of the others’
> beliefs. And, of course, the word God would lose
> its authority because the religious leaders
> claiming its existence would be shown to be
> spreading falsehoods.
>
>
> Violence is a survival trait of all living things.
> It is human and part of the goal of religions is
> to control human violence. They certainly fail at
> times but that is because humans are bad, or weak,
> or sick. Science may study human moral rules but
> it does not create them. Spiritual people create
> them. And then use religion to support their
> moral ideas. Human violence is really tough to
> overcome but that is because it is based in Nature
> itself. And we are probably going backwards in
> that regard nowadays.
>
> Happy Saturday,

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Free will or not? 920 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 128 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 107 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 98 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 101 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 97 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 91 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 88 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 96 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 90 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 90 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 92 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 94 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 96 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 82 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 82 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 87 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 88 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 82 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 89 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 87 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 91 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 81 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 88 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 88 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 88 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 88 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 79 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 80 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 83 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 80 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 83 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 83 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 84 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 86 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 81 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 83 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 81 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 92 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 84 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 85 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 83 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 84 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 85 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 87 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 82 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 87 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 80 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 79 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 87 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 80 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 81 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 79 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 79 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 78 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 82 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 86 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 83 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 83 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 87 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 91 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 77 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 74 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 78 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 79 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 75 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 79 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 79 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 77 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 81 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 79 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 76 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 83 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 81 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 84 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 81 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 80 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 86 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 80 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 76 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 74 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 76 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 78 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 77 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 81 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 72 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 73 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 78 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 78 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 76 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 79 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 81 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 78 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 77 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 134 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 81 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 80 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 74 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 75 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 79 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 75 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 69 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 73 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 78 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 81 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 92 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 85 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 80 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 82 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 75 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 84 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 79 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 80 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 76 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 82 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 81 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 79 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 77 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 79 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 77 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 98 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 97 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 86 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 86 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 86 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 87 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 88 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 82 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 82 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 84 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 95 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 94 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 91 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 99 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 96 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 100 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 95 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 91 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 95 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 100 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 106 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 104 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 111 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 117 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 85 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 90 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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