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“No, but if the interpretation included anything invisible, undetectable, non-observable, and totally lacking in objective evidence in spite of the huge progress made via the mammoth efforts of Science to discover and learn as much as possible about ourselves and the world we inhabit, and in spite of the increasingly sophisticated technology and equipment used, wwellll then, to all intents and purposes it does not exist, although it is an actual thought in people's brains and, therefore, can be discussed as such. ”

Hi Susan, I suggest that Gerda and Ray’s experiences do not include “anything invisible, undetectable, non-observable, and totally lacking in objective evidence.” This is a hidden argument that you bring out now and then which doesn’t apply. Now it is visible here. Basically, you are just writing off ideas, I guess, you feel may lead to a belief in god, your main cause celeb.

But I don’t think that is what these folks are arguing. Actually, it would be a bad idea to do so nowadays. IMO, of course. They are talking about what they DO experience.

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Free will or not? 1085 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 207 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 171 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 154 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 158 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 154 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 152 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 142 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 151 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 145 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 143 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 145 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 158 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 154 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 134 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 139 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 145 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 145 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 136 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 143 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 143 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 147 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 139 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 143 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 142 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 142 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 146 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 133 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 138 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 138 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 137 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 138 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 139 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 139 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 145 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 138 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 135 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 135 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 147 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 141 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 139 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 137 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 141 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 148 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 142 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 135 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 140 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 132 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 131 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 141 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 133 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 137 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 130 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 131 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 129 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 137 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 137 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 137 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 136 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 141 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 153 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 136 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 126 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 136 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 136 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 142 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 135 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 131 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 144 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 134 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 139 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 144 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 135 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 140 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 137 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 133 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 141 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 136 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 138 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 127 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 135 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 134 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 131 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 135 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 125 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 123 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 131 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 134 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 128 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 129 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 137 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 140 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 131 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 231 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 136 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 133 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 134 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 132 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 138 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 126 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 118 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 124 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 133 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 146 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 147 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 150 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 138 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 138 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 128 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 141 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 132 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 139 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 126 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 136 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 139 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 131 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 135 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 129 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 129 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 158 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 160 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 148 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 143 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 140 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 143 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 151 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 138 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 143 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 137 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 155 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 151 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 144 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 155 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 153 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 156 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 148 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 144 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 147 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 157 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 159 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 162 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 165 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 169 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 137 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 148 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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