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All this is so scientific!

I will just add in my own un-scientific words that there is a "state" many of us have been in from time to time. I don't know if it has a name, probably not.
it is a state wherein you are warned about something dangerous or unpleasant, shortly before it happens. It could also take a bit longer to happen, but it is a forewarning which there seems no reason for, nor any possibility of us knowing it in any other way, than "something tells us". None of the normal senses comes into play. Aha, of course it has a name - the sixth sense! I forgot. It has worked for me several times.

Susan will no doubt put it to either chance or delusion or something else, just to explain it away. Well. You weren't there!

Ray, I don't suppose a scientist would have anything to do with the sixth sense? We have our free will to take notice of and trust the sixth sense warning us, or to reject it and regret it.

What would be your comments to that?

GG.




drrayeye Wrote:
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> Susan,
>
> Being conscious or unconscious are subjective
> states known to all of us. Many have introspected
> about these subjective states: being conscious was
> associated with being awake--and being unconscious
> was associated with being asleep. Many thinkers
> developed general models or theories to explain
> these subjective states. During the late 19th and
> early 20th century, psychiatrists in medicine
> applied some of these insights into practical
> applications that appeared to improve mental
> health.
>
> Beginning in the 19th century, experimental
> scientists began to go beyond simple introspection
> to discover what was going on in these states. To
> carry out truly scientific investigations,
> investigators could only study a small part of
> consciousness, and almost nothing of the
> unconscious. People in the medical field, and
> clinical psychologist felt that subjective reports
> about unconscious experiences--sometimes dream
> reports--were sufficient to improve mental health
> without any truly scientific support.
>
> By now, the clinical approach has come under more
> scrutiny, and the scientific approach has
> broadened. But still, experimental scientific
> cognitive research only investigates a tiny sliver
> of what could be learned about consciousness--and
> an even tinier sliver of what might be learned
> about the unconscious.
>
> Ray

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Free will or not? 927 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 132 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 111 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 101 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 104 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 100 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 95 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 91 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 100 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 94 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 95 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 96 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 99 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 100 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 86 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 87 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 91 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 92 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 86 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 93 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 92 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 96 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 84 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 92 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 92 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 91 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 91 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 82 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 84 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 86 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 85 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 87 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 88 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 88 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 90 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 84 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 86 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 83 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 95 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 86 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 87 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 87 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 86 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 88 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 90 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 85 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 90 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 83 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 81 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 91 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 82 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 84 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 82 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 81 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 81 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 84 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 90 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 85 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 85 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 88 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 93 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 79 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 75 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 79 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 82 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 77 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 82 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 81 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 78 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 83 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 81 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 78 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 85 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 82 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 86 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 85 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 81 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 88 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 81 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 78 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 75 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 78 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 80 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 79 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 82 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 74 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 74 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 80 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 79 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 78 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 81 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 83 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 81 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 79 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 138 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 83 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 82 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 78 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 79 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 82 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 76 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 72 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 74 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 79 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 86 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 95 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 89 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 83 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 84 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 77 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 86 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 81 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 82 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 77 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 84 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 83 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 83 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 79 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 80 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 79 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 103 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 101 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 90 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 91 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 89 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 91 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 92 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 85 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 87 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 87 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 100 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 97 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 94 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 103 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 101 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 103 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 99 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 97 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 98 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 103 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 110 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 107 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 116 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 120 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 86 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 94 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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