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That is a surprise that you prefer security for randomness.
I would have thought it were the other way, that believers in God got told they had to have something to cling to, even if it was invisible, whereas non-believers were so tough that they did not care what happened. And the world is very much a chance thing.
Actually, the world is not very much a chance thing. If it were, then chaos would reign, since no-one would know what was going to happen ever.
If something happens to us which appears to be random, there will be a back trail of causes which happened to co-incide at that point. We call such a thing, or can consider such a thing to be, random, and it will certainly feel like it, but it is not really so. There are random mutations which cause changes in DNA and so on, but as soon as they have happened, they become part of the determined way of things.
We live in a deterministic universe and that is why there isn't chaos all the time.
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Now what you are saying here seems to say that believers are more brave, putting their trust in God. But that can also be based on what others have said and told over time, besides own experiences.
People put forward the idea of some power, but all the knowledge and understanding we have today has always lead away from that and the god-of-the-gaps is fast disappearing - not fast enough for me though!
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Then there are all the synchronicities, which point to a meaning and guidance in our individual lives.
That makes me feel secure.
I feel more secure since the idea of God vanished from my mind, since I am as sure as I can be that there is no such thing anywhere doing any controlling, or judging, or watching at all. This does not give free reign for everyone to cause mayhem - it is co-operation that works best and, as Eddie Larry has said (either yesterday or today), it is quite likely that aggressive behaviour results from an original need to defend against aggressors. Such would have been an essential trait to perpetuate.
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Not that I could not be scared in a terrorist attack, or thunderstorm. It was a beauty of a crack that knocked my telephone out Friday night. Still not back on. Tomorrow, I hope.

Dogs very scared, thinking I, their God, could stop it :). Glad they stay inside. Poor cows.
There was a book I read ages ago with beautiful pictures on every alternate page of cows, some cartoons, some photos, some paintings etc, and it was called 'The History of the world from the Cow's point of view'. Well, they survived successfully before humans domesticated them, in spite of storms!! Thank goodness since that probably helped our survival.

Susan

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Free will or not? 1062 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 198 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 162 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 148 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 150 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 146 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 146 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 137 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 144 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 139 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 136 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 141 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 149 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 147 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 126 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 133 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 138 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 139 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 130 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 136 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 135 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 141 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 132 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 136 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 137 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 135 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 137 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 126 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 133 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 132 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 132 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 133 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 132 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 132 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 140 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 133 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 128 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 131 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 142 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 135 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 133 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 130 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 134 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 138 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 136 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 135 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 127 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 126 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 135 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 128 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 130 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 126 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 123 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 123 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 131 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 137 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 148 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 120 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 123 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 125 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 129 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 129 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 127 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 124 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 134 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 128 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 127 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 133 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 127 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 132 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 130 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 126 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 132 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 127 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 130 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 118 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 128 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 127 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 125 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 127 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 118 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 118 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 124 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 128 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 121 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 124 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 127 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 129 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 123 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 217 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 131 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 124 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 124 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 124 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 131 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 121 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 114 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 119 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 125 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 139 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 140 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 142 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 129 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 130 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 119 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 132 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 125 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 131 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 121 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 130 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 134 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 125 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 127 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 123 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 122 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 149 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 151 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 138 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 136 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 135 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 138 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 142 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 131 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 139 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 132 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 147 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 147 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 139 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 147 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 148 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 149 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 144 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 138 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 142 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 151 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 154 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 153 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 160 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 164 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 129 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 139 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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