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That is a surprise that you prefer security for randomness.
I would have thought it were the other way, that believers in God got told they had to have something to cling to, even if it was invisible, whereas non-believers were so tough that they did not care what happened. And the world is very much a chance thing.

Now what you are saying here seems to say that believers are more brave, putting their trust in God. But that can also be based on what others have said and told over time, besides own experiences.
Then there are all the synchronicities, which point to a meaning and guidance in our individual lives. That makes me feel secure.

Not that I could not be scared in a terrorist attack, or thunderstorm. It was a beauty of a crack that knocked my telephone out Friday night. Still not back on. Tomorrow, I hope.

Dogs very scared, thinking I, their God, could stop it :). Glad they stay inside. Poor cows.

GG.

Susan Doris Wrote:
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> If you take the trouble to look up what science
> has discovered about how we think, you will find
> that, if you were attached to suitable machinery
> all the time, a part of your brain would show
> action a split second before you
> consciously[//I] thought to get up from the
> chair. I understand that these experiments have
> been repeated and demonstrate predictability. If
> you can find better evidence to the contrary,
> please cite it.
>
> The phrase free will is simply two words put
> together to enable us to talk about what certainly
> feels like deciding completely consciously
> to do something. However, if we had evolved to do
> that, then we would not have survived. Just
> because it has only been detected in recent times
> does not mean that it is wrong. Many things we
> know to be correct are counter-intuitive. And, as
> I have mentioned before, if you want to see a
> never-ending discussion between one really rigid
> mind and ones that are prepared to look for all
> explanations, not just one including a god, then
> go to R&E, Searching for God, and read the last
> ten pages.
> It is far more scary to think that we are acting
> entirely randomly all the time - there lies chaos.
> I like the security ofknowing that my thoughts and
> actions are based on what has already been thought
> and/or what has happened in life.
>
> You are also incorrect in thinking that I have a
> rigid or closed mind. I cant stop you thinking
> that, if that is what you choose to do, but I
> write it down anyway.
>
> Susan
>
>
> greengirl5 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do I? - ok, let me try!
> >
> > Do I keep sitting here or get up to do what I
> > "should" be doing? Why should I do something
> else?
> >
> > Because it is on my own list of things to do,
> and
> > if I don't do them, I will have stupid dreams
> at
> > night.
> >
> > I fight with myself all the time, too much to
> do,
> > but I don't want to go to a nursing home either
> > and lose my free will.
> >
> > In the olden days a cigaret made me get up, now
> it
> > is chocolate.
> >
> > So, where is it? Has it got a hold over me? I
> > could have a biscuit in stead of, but had two a
> > little while ago. Take up smoking again? No!
> >
> > Chocolate, dark, good for you it says in many
> > places. I use my free will to decide they are
> > right. The sellers? The makers? Whatever, it
> has
> > done me no harm so far, but only the dark. Not
> too
> > much sugar. My choice, yeh- ! Free will!
> >
> > GG.
> >
> >
> >
> > Eddie Larry Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fine, but you still have to come up with an
> > > explanation of free will.

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Free will or not? 845 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 97 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 86 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 79 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 80 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 76 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 70 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 69 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 76 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 70 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 71 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 72 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 74 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 74 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 62 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 61 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 66 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 68 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 61 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 69 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 68 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 71 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 62 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 67 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 66 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 66 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 68 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 58 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 60 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 62 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 59 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 61 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 62 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 65 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 66 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 61 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 62 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 62 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 70 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 64 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 64 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 64 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 62 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 65 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 66 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 61 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 63 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 58 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 56 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 64 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 59 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 58 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 58 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 56 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 57 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 58 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 62 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 59 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 59 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 64 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 69 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 57 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 52 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 55 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 56 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 53 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 57 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 58 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 54 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 60 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 56 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 55 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 60 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 59 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 63 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 60 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 59 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 65 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 57 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 55 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 52 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 54 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 56 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 56 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 60 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 51 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 52 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 57 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 55 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 54 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 58 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 61 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 56 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 56 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 97 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 58 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 58 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 53 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 54 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 56 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 52 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 50 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 53 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 56 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 61 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 71 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 66 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 59 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 59 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 54 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 61 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 58 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 58 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 52 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 60 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 62 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 58 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 56 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 58 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 55 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 79 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 76 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 66 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 63 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 64 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 68 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 67 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 62 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 63 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 63 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 75 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 73 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 69 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 78 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 73 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 80 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 74 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 70 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 75 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 80 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 85 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 82 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 89 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 93 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 64 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 70 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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