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That is a surprise that you prefer security for randomness.
I would have thought it were the other way, that believers in God got told they had to have something to cling to, even if it was invisible, whereas non-believers were so tough that they did not care what happened. And the world is very much a chance thing.

Now what you are saying here seems to say that believers are more brave, putting their trust in God. But that can also be based on what others have said and told over time, besides own experiences.
Then there are all the synchronicities, which point to a meaning and guidance in our individual lives. That makes me feel secure.

Not that I could not be scared in a terrorist attack, or thunderstorm. It was a beauty of a crack that knocked my telephone out Friday night. Still not back on. Tomorrow, I hope.

Dogs very scared, thinking I, their God, could stop it :). Glad they stay inside. Poor cows.

GG.

Susan Doris Wrote:
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> If you take the trouble to look up what science
> has discovered about how we think, you will find
> that, if you were attached to suitable machinery
> all the time, a part of your brain would show
> action a split second before you
> consciously[//I] thought to get up from the
> chair. I understand that these experiments have
> been repeated and demonstrate predictability. If
> you can find better evidence to the contrary,
> please cite it.
>
> The phrase free will is simply two words put
> together to enable us to talk about what certainly
> feels like deciding completely consciously
> to do something. However, if we had evolved to do
> that, then we would not have survived. Just
> because it has only been detected in recent times
> does not mean that it is wrong. Many things we
> know to be correct are counter-intuitive. And, as
> I have mentioned before, if you want to see a
> never-ending discussion between one really rigid
> mind and ones that are prepared to look for all
> explanations, not just one including a god, then
> go to R&E, Searching for God, and read the last
> ten pages.
> It is far more scary to think that we are acting
> entirely randomly all the time - there lies chaos.
> I like the security ofknowing that my thoughts and
> actions are based on what has already been thought
> and/or what has happened in life.
>
> You are also incorrect in thinking that I have a
> rigid or closed mind. I cant stop you thinking
> that, if that is what you choose to do, but I
> write it down anyway.
>
> Susan
>
>
> greengirl5 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do I? - ok, let me try!
> >
> > Do I keep sitting here or get up to do what I
> > "should" be doing? Why should I do something
> else?
> >
> > Because it is on my own list of things to do,
> and
> > if I don't do them, I will have stupid dreams
> at
> > night.
> >
> > I fight with myself all the time, too much to
> do,
> > but I don't want to go to a nursing home either
> > and lose my free will.
> >
> > In the olden days a cigaret made me get up, now
> it
> > is chocolate.
> >
> > So, where is it? Has it got a hold over me? I
> > could have a biscuit in stead of, but had two a
> > little while ago. Take up smoking again? No!
> >
> > Chocolate, dark, good for you it says in many
> > places. I use my free will to decide they are
> > right. The sellers? The makers? Whatever, it
> has
> > done me no harm so far, but only the dark. Not
> too
> > much sugar. My choice, yeh- ! Free will!
> >
> > GG.
> >
> >
> >
> > Eddie Larry Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fine, but you still have to come up with an
> > > explanation of free will.

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Free will or not? 1062 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 199 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 162 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 148 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 150 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 146 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 146 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 138 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 144 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 139 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 137 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 141 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 149 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 147 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 127 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 134 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 138 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 139 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 131 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 136 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 136 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 142 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 132 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 137 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 138 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 136 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 137 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 126 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 133 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 132 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 132 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 133 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 133 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 133 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 141 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 133 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 128 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 131 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 142 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 135 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 133 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 131 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 134 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 138 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 136 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 135 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 127 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 126 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 135 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 128 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 130 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 126 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 124 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 124 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 132 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 137 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 148 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 130 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 120 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 123 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 126 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 130 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 130 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 127 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 124 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 134 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 128 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 127 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 133 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 127 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 133 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 131 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 126 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 132 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 127 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 130 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 118 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 128 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 127 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 126 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 127 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 118 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 118 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 125 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 128 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 121 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 124 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 128 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 130 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 123 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 217 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 131 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 125 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 125 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 124 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 131 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 121 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 114 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 119 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 125 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 140 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 140 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 142 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 130 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 130 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 120 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 132 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 126 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 132 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 121 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 130 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 134 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 125 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 127 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 123 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 122 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 150 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 151 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 139 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 137 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 135 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 139 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 142 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 131 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 139 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 132 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 147 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 147 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 140 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 148 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 148 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 150 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 144 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 139 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 143 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 151 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 154 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 153 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 161 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 164 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 129 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 140 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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