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That is a surprise that you prefer security for randomness.
I would have thought it were the other way, that believers in God got told they had to have something to cling to, even if it was invisible, whereas non-believers were so tough that they did not care what happened. And the world is very much a chance thing.

Now what you are saying here seems to say that believers are more brave, putting their trust in God. But that can also be based on what others have said and told over time, besides own experiences.
Then there are all the synchronicities, which point to a meaning and guidance in our individual lives. That makes me feel secure.

Not that I could not be scared in a terrorist attack, or thunderstorm. It was a beauty of a crack that knocked my telephone out Friday night. Still not back on. Tomorrow, I hope.

Dogs very scared, thinking I, their God, could stop it :). Glad they stay inside. Poor cows.

GG.

Susan Doris Wrote:
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> If you take the trouble to look up what science
> has discovered about how we think, you will find
> that, if you were attached to suitable machinery
> all the time, a part of your brain would show
> action a split second before you
> consciously[//I] thought to get up from the
> chair. I understand that these experiments have
> been repeated and demonstrate predictability. If
> you can find better evidence to the contrary,
> please cite it.
>
> The phrase free will is simply two words put
> together to enable us to talk about what certainly
> feels like deciding completely consciously
> to do something. However, if we had evolved to do
> that, then we would not have survived. Just
> because it has only been detected in recent times
> does not mean that it is wrong. Many things we
> know to be correct are counter-intuitive. And, as
> I have mentioned before, if you want to see a
> never-ending discussion between one really rigid
> mind and ones that are prepared to look for all
> explanations, not just one including a god, then
> go to R&E, Searching for God, and read the last
> ten pages.
> It is far more scary to think that we are acting
> entirely randomly all the time - there lies chaos.
> I like the security ofknowing that my thoughts and
> actions are based on what has already been thought
> and/or what has happened in life.
>
> You are also incorrect in thinking that I have a
> rigid or closed mind. I cant stop you thinking
> that, if that is what you choose to do, but I
> write it down anyway.
>
> Susan
>
>
> greengirl5 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do I? - ok, let me try!
> >
> > Do I keep sitting here or get up to do what I
> > "should" be doing? Why should I do something
> else?
> >
> > Because it is on my own list of things to do,
> and
> > if I don't do them, I will have stupid dreams
> at
> > night.
> >
> > I fight with myself all the time, too much to
> do,
> > but I don't want to go to a nursing home either
> > and lose my free will.
> >
> > In the olden days a cigaret made me get up, now
> it
> > is chocolate.
> >
> > So, where is it? Has it got a hold over me? I
> > could have a biscuit in stead of, but had two a
> > little while ago. Take up smoking again? No!
> >
> > Chocolate, dark, good for you it says in many
> > places. I use my free will to decide they are
> > right. The sellers? The makers? Whatever, it
> has
> > done me no harm so far, but only the dark. Not
> too
> > much sugar. My choice, yeh- ! Free will!
> >
> > GG.
> >
> >
> >
> > Eddie Larry Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fine, but you still have to come up with an
> > > explanation of free will.

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Free will or not? 1126 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 224 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 180 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 161 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 165 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 161 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 165 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 152 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 159 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 152 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 151 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 157 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 171 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 167 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 146 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 150 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 157 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 152 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 145 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 153 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 151 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 158 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 146 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 152 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 149 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 149 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 156 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 141 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 147 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 146 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 147 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 148 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 146 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 147 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 155 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 145 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 146 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 144 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 156 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 150 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 151 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 147 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 150 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 167 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 152 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 142 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 151 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 139 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 140 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 152 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 142 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 146 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 139 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 143 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 138 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 145 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 149 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 145 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 145 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 149 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 163 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 160 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 135 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 137 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 145 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 146 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 151 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 142 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 142 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 160 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 144 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 152 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 151 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 142 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 151 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 146 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 144 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 147 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 147 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 159 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 138 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 143 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 142 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 140 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 141 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 135 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 134 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 137 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 146 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 134 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 137 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 144 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 150 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 140 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 255 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 145 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 139 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 150 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 139 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 144 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 134 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 125 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 131 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 139 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 160 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 155 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 163 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 145 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 145 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 134 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 147 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 139 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 152 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 132 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 144 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 151 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 137 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 141 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 137 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 138 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 173 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 174 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 161 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 153 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 153 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 151 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 160 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 144 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 151 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 147 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 163 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 159 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 152 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 162 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 159 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 164 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 155 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 152 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 154 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 165 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 170 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 170 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 173 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 180 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 144 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 155 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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