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Extract from God Gametes and the Planet of the Butterfly Queen - page 271

In his book Life’s Grandeur, Stephen Jay Gould uses an analogy when outlining his case, asking us to imagine a drunk walking down the street. He depicts the drunk as the progress of life in that there is no purpose or direction to his actions or which way he will fall. We are asked to imagine that there is a wall on his left and a gutter to his right. The left wall is ‘minimum complexity’ and the gutter, ‘improved design’. He then points out that there is only one way the drunk can fall. He will most likely wobble to the left as many times as to the right. When he hits the left wall however, he will bounce back. If he keeps going he will eventually fall and it will be into the gutter.
Gould then argues that there is such a brick wall to life on earth, his rationale being that there is a minimum level of complexity necessary for life to exist. He seems to suggest that when creatures hit this wall they bounce back and take the only option available and this is to evolve greater complexity.
He assumes there is a level of complexity supporting life, yet the Darwinian paradigm does not provide any mechanism for supporting minimum complexity. It is true that if the complexity of creatures falls below a certain level, they will cease to live. Ceasing to live, however, is different from bouncing back. What is it that stops the level of complexity falling below the minimum required to support life? It seems contradictory for Gould to suggest there is a property of life (or by analogy his left brick wall) for Darwinists argue that there is no preferred status for life to exist.
Individuals can die and species can become extinct, so a more accurate Darwinian analogy would be a ‘left cliff’. Any creature that devolved below the minimum level of complexity needed to support life would fall over this cliff, never to be seen again.
We are told that 99.9% of species have become extinct. This would suggest that there is no left wall protecting living creatures from the perils of extinction. It might also be worthwhile looking at why so many species have suffered this fate. The left wall analogy implies that these are species that fell to the left (minimum complexity) and did not bounce back, yet this does not appear to be the case. Most unsuccessful species are those that fell the other way. They attempted to make a living by evolving greater complexity and failed to adapt when environmental conditions changed.
Gould’s analogy does not explain why species tend to evolve greater complexity when there is no left wall bouncing them in that direction. And ‘falling into the gutter’ is not a good simile for evolving complexity. A better comparison would be to suggest that our drunk suddenly did a triple pirouette off the back foot, leaped 30 feet into the air and landed amidst oncoming traffic on other side of the street. This would paint a clearer picture of the developmental processes involved and also suggest a reason for the high incidents of extinctions associated with evolving greater complexity.



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Re: Darwins giraffes - Trees come in different sizes! 277 Robert Jameson 08-Oct-18 04:40
Re: Darwins giraffes - Trees come in different sizes! 288 Susan Doris 08-Oct-18 05:15
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I know that one! 271 greengirl5 21-Oct-18 05:44
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Re: I know that one! 258 Susan Doris 21-Oct-18 09:43
Mere assertion 263 greengirl5 21-Oct-18 21:50
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Oh dear 282 drrayeye 08-Oct-18 16:49
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'Not shaking in my shoes" 264 drrayeye 09-Oct-18 11:54
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Re: Shame on you 274 Susan Doris 12-Oct-18 18:00
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Feedback 275 drrayeye 10-Oct-18 14:51
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Re: Sir Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe 273 Susan Doris 09-Oct-18 06:45
Wavelengths 255 greengirl5 09-Oct-18 08:20
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Re: Wavelengths 249 Susan Doris 09-Oct-18 18:03
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Re: Wavelengths 254 Susan Doris 10-Oct-18 12:26
Re: Wavelengths 267 Itatw70s 10-Oct-18 13:49
Re: Wavelengths 247 Susan Doris 10-Oct-18 14:33
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Oh no, another pickle you've gotten yourself into 273 drrayeye 06-Oct-18 13:24
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Rubbishing the debunkers 262 greengirl5 06-Oct-18 14:32
Re: Rubbishing the debunkers 295 Susan Doris 06-Oct-18 17:31
Everything is just wonderful! 262 greengirl5 06-Oct-18 22:59
The scientific PROOF that shows reincarnation 294 michael seabrook 06-Oct-18 15:59
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The Nobel Prize 265 greengirl5 06-Oct-18 23:08
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Re: The scientific PROOF that shows reincarnation 332 michael seabrook 11-Oct-18 06:31
Re: tapping into past lives 300 M. J. Thomas 10-Oct-18 10:12
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Re: tapping into past lives 274 Itatw70s 06-Oct-18 19:54
Re: tapping into past lives 275 Susan Doris 07-Oct-18 05:23
Says who? 268 greengirl5 07-Oct-18 07:06
Re: tapping into past lives, if you would of read all the post 310 michael seabrook 07-Oct-18 10:50
Re: tapping into past lives, if you would of read all the post 273 Itatw70s 07-Oct-18 20:00
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Re: Reinarnation = immortality 287 Itatw70s 07-Oct-18 20:53
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All hugely interesting! 277 greengirl5 11-Oct-18 01:07
Re: All hugely interesting! 273 Robert Jameson 11-Oct-18 02:20
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Re: connecting the physical with the spiritual 261 Eddie Larry 13-Oct-18 15:25
Re: connecting the physical with the spiritual 271 Robert Jameson 13-Oct-18 17:30
Correction made 270 Robert Jameson 12-Oct-18 01:16
Re: connecting the physical with the spiritual 280 Eddie Larry 12-Oct-18 18:05
Re: connecting the physical with the spiritual 249 drrayeye 12-Oct-18 18:50
Your chair as a mirage! 267 greengirl5 12-Oct-18 21:00
Re: Your chair as a mirage! 274 Robert Jameson 13-Oct-18 01:16
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Re: tapping into past lives, resurrected 277 Robert Jameson 06-Oct-18 12:23
Re: tapping into past lives, resurrected 272 Susan Doris 06-Oct-18 14:00
So, what is consciousness? 297 greengirl5 06-Oct-18 14:40
Re: So, what is consciousness? 264 Susan Doris 06-Oct-18 17:40
Re: So, what is consciousness? 278 Itatw70s 06-Oct-18 20:26
Re: So, what is consciousness? 309 Eddie Larry 06-Oct-18 23:04
Re: So, what is consciousness? 255 Susan Doris 07-Oct-18 06:09
Re: So, what is consciousness? 306 Eddie Larry 07-Oct-18 13:22
Re: So, what is consciousness? 273 Itatw70s 07-Oct-18 20:35
as "far" as you know! 263 greengirl5 06-Oct-18 23:19
Re: as "far" as you know! 287 Robert Jameson 07-Oct-18 00:01
Re: as "far" as you know! 333 Eddie Larry 07-Oct-18 02:30
Re: as "far" as you know! 297 Robert Jameson 07-Oct-18 03:43
Re: as "far" as you know! 274 Susan Doris 07-Oct-18 06:16
Re: as "far" as you know! 330 michael seabrook 07-Oct-18 10:53
Re: as "far" as you know! 293 Robert Jameson 07-Oct-18 11:25
Re: as "far" as you know! 311 michael seabrook 07-Oct-18 17:57
Re: as "far" as you know! 280 Itatw70s 07-Oct-18 21:21
Re: as "far" as you know! 277 Eddie Larry 08-Oct-18 23:04
Re: as "far" as you know! 279 Itatw70s 09-Oct-18 15:54
Great favorite! 288 drrayeye 10-Oct-18 03:45
Re: tapping into past lives 292 Enigcom 08-Oct-18 23:07
Re: tapping into past lives 254 Susan Doris 09-Oct-18 06:47
Re: tapping into past lives 269 Enigcom 09-Oct-18 18:02
Re: tapping into past lives 250 Robert Jameson 09-Oct-18 21:19
Re: tapping into past lives 255 Enigcom 11-Oct-18 21:36
Re: tapping into past lives 303 greengirl5 11-Oct-18 21:46
Nexus article – souls recall life between lives 284 Robert Jameson 09-Oct-18 03:31
Re: Nexus article – souls recall life between lives 278 Susan Doris 09-Oct-18 06:50
Re: Nexus article – souls recall life between lives 290 greengirl5 09-Oct-18 07:57
Re: Nexus article – souls recall life between lives 281 Susan Doris 09-Oct-18 18:09
Re: tapping into past lives 276 Redwood1 11-Oct-18 20:19
Re: tapping into past lives 288 greengirl5 11-Oct-18 21:57
Re: tapping into past lives 280 Enigcom 11-Oct-18 22:08
Re: tapping into past lives 269 Redwood1 17-Oct-18 18:40
Re: tapping into past lives 242 Redwood1 17-Oct-18 18:51
Re: tapping into past lives 247 Redwood1 17-Oct-18 19:12
A crazy world needs a crazy explanation 263 Robert Jameson 17-Oct-18 23:06
Re: A crazy world needs a crazy explanation 259 Susan Doris 18-Oct-18 05:24
Re: A crazy world needs a crazy explanation 274 M. J. Thomas 18-Oct-18 09:04
Re: tapping into past lives 265 Susan Doris 18-Oct-18 05:11
Re: tapping into past lives 328 Susan Doris 12-Oct-18 05:42
Re: tapping into past lives, old souls 349 michael seabrook 13-Oct-18 13:19
Are you a Moon Child 316 Robert Jameson 13-Oct-18 23:41
Re: Are you a Moon Child 362 michael seabrook 14-Oct-18 08:30
Re: tapping into past lives 356 David L 14-Oct-18 14:42
Re: tapping into past lives 361 michael seabrook 14-Oct-18 15:58
Past lives and sacred rivers 449 Robert Jameson 23-Oct-18 11:44
Re: Past lives and sacred rivers 267 Eddie Larry 23-Oct-18 17:14
Re: Past lives and sacred rivers 304 michael seabrook 23-Oct-18 19:21
Re: Past lives and sacred rivers 319 Robert Jameson 24-Oct-18 00:34
Re: Past lives and sacred rivers 304 michael seabrook 25-Oct-18 07:54
Re: Past lives and sacred rivers 321 Robert Jameson 25-Oct-18 11:41
Re: Past lives and sacred rivers 272 Eddie Larry 25-Oct-18 14:04
The negative consequences of chit chat 275 drrayeye 25-Oct-18 20:45
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