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I like to say yes to number 2. question.

All the other speculations I prefer to leave alone until I am either "dead" = in another frequency or mysteriously become instantly enlightened. Not much time left for me for that! I don't really want it either, I am quite happy being a little longer in this body with my present name etc. and simply live as a normal human being, doing all the normal things. When the time comes and I am ready for it, I will understand more.
Just happy I have lived many years with the knowledge that could be called "mind over matter".

GG.


drew Wrote:
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> Hmm...well, I'll continue then.
>
> Jazz offered the teaser of what a circle looks
> like when it is on its side and we are in a
> 2-dimensional world: a line. My response was what
> does it look like when we are in the middle of the
> circle: we are surrounded on all sides…but on
> the one hand, there is no above or below, just
> ‘around us’; while on the other hand, if we
> are contained in a 2-dimensional world, there has
> to be above and below…we somewhat only perceive
> the sides, but we are surrounded in all directions
> whether we can perceive the other planes or not:
> we are contained.
>
> In looking at the construct of an atom, the
> electron orbits the nucleus and it does so at a
> specific distance to it, showing that an atom has
> a heck of a lot of free space in its composition.
> Putting yourself in that 2-dimensional world again
> and being the nucleus, you would perceive that you
> are a disc-proton next to a line-neutron that you
> cannot see behind, and on every other side you
> would somewhat perceive a line that is apparently
> the same thickness all along it – the shell the
> electron journeys upon quite fast, creating a wave
> of electromagnetic energy that appears to be a
> ‘line’. If we take a snap-shot of the electron
> in its motion, we would either see it as a very
> small line in one specific direction, or not see
> it at all as it is either behind the neutron-line,
> or is anywhere else in its motion about its shell
> of its 3-dimensional world.
>
> In that very small snap-shot-moment, you world
> perceive near-absolute freedom to go in every
> direction away from your neighbouring
> neutron-line, or even move around that
> neutron-line to discover it is a smooth, wide line
> that is pretty much exactly as your own
> disc-shape, and be able to go in every
> direction…except for that little electron-line
> trapped on the same plane as you: you could go to
> that electron-line and move around it to discover
> it is a smooth, short line that is very much like
> your own disc-shape. You could have that as one
> location, the neutron as another location, and
> your freedom of movement now goes anywhere you
> care, with the observation that one little line
> linked to the other little line observes sign
> posts of where you began from: what used to be
> ‘the middle’. The wonder of this becomes
> apparent when you move away from your ‘middle’
> and get nearer to another atom caught in its own
> snap-shot-moment.
>
> In this world, only the protons can move; the
> neutrons are trapped in place; electrons are
> either on the plane or not, and there is the vast
> amount of space that can be journeyed through by
> you and every other proton-line you meet. Let’s
> adjust the snap-shot-moment to be one that is
> staggered in its motion of time: one moment is
> snap-shot, the next moment is not. You go from
> being free to being contained; you go from being
> near neutron-lines or proton-lines to being wholly
> alone and contained either within an
> electron-shell-line, or between several of them
> where their distance from you appears to show a
> dashed-line on all sides…oh, to be caught in
> that place where your perception shows areas of
> no-go and areas of go-where-you-like. (In all
> this, you are allowed to be away from your
> companion neutron and electron that keeps you
> alive because of something called ‘spooky action
> at a distance’ where the energy needed to keep
> the three of you ‘alive’ still works, no
> matter where you are.)
>
> In all of this, the only thing being adjusted is
> time, which gives observations of containment,
> absolute freedom, or a slitted barrier offering up
> specific directions of freedom…it all comes down
> to the moment and what can be perceived around you
> at a specific moment against another specific
> moment.
>
> 1. So…is it possible for us to choose our
> moments because we are complete constructs of
> atoms with vast amounts of free space within us
> where electrons in their shells are shared between
> atoms which keeps us ‘whole’?
>
> 2. Is our mind free to move outside our skull
> because of ‘spooky action at a distance’?
>
> 3. Is ‘the holographic universe’ - which even
> Ron likes to play with – a poor description for
> pure energy caught in various time-moments which
> either offer up form or freedom?
>
> 4. And what do we perceive around us that looks
> like we are trapped on all sides when in fact,
> there are two specific directions of complete
> freedom that we cannot even perceive but know
> exist?
>
> (okay, this is a 5-dimensional work needing a 6th
> sense to appreciate, so go with your
> gut-feeling…that place where butterflies live)
>
> Hmm?

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The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 1074 drew 16-Jun-18 22:41
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 261 jazzmumbles 17-Jun-18 00:03
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 191 drew 17-Jun-18 03:24
oroborus 199 greengirl5 18-Jun-18 02:58
Re: oroborus 146 drrayeye 19-Jun-18 16:34
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 167 jazzmumbles 18-Jun-18 10:53
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 194 Susan Doris 17-Jun-18 04:48
To be frank... 229 drew 18-Jun-18 00:45
"frank" is not good enough 174 drrayeye 19-Jun-18 16:44
Frank is quite fine 152 drew 20-Jun-18 01:32
Re: "frank" is not good enough 158 Susan Doris 20-Jun-18 08:13
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 190 Itatw70s 17-Jun-18 16:59
Well, how substantial are we as ‘beings’ in the Universe? 191 drew 18-Jun-18 00:51
Re: Well, how substantial are we as ‘beings’ in the Universe? 214 greengirl5 18-Jun-18 03:11
Re: Well, how substantial are we as ‘beings’ in the Universe? 153 Itatw70s 19-Jun-18 00:20
Re: Well, how substantial are we as ‘beings’ in the Universe? 173 drew 19-Jun-18 02:03
Re: Well, how substantial are we as ‘beings’ in the Universe? 148 Itatw70s 19-Jun-18 16:31
OT films 151 drew 20-Jun-18 09:17
I think I like this Dr Jude Currivan... 156 drew 20-Jun-18 10:13
Re: I think I like this Dr Jude Currivan... 150 Eddie Larry 20-Jun-18 16:58
Re: I think I like this Dr Jude Currivan... 136 Enigcom 20-Jun-18 18:39
Re: do we like being connected... 137 drew 20-Jun-18 22:09
Re: do we like being connected... 140 Itatw70s 20-Jun-18 22:41
Re: do we like being connected... 152 drew 20-Jun-18 23:18
Re: do we like being connected... 135 Itatw70s 21-Jun-18 12:32
Re: do we like being connected... 160 Eddie Larry 21-Jun-18 17:29
Re: do we like being connected... 157 drew 21-Jun-18 18:40
Re: do we like being connected... 134 Eddie Larry 21-Jun-18 21:49
Re: do we like being connected... 143 drew 21-Jun-18 23:03
Re: do we like being connected... 152 Itatw70s 23-Jun-18 05:28
Re: do we like being connected... 131 drew 23-Jun-18 08:25
Re: do we like being connected... 133 Eddie Larry 23-Jun-18 14:07
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 150 drew 24-Jun-18 00:21
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 159 Enigcom 24-Jun-18 08:30
Re: History 134 drew 25-Jun-18 12:14
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 135 Eddie Larry 24-Jun-18 14:58
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 148 drew 24-Jun-18 19:21
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 141 Itatw70s 24-Jun-18 23:31
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 113 drew 25-Jun-18 01:37
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 127 Eddie Larry 25-Jun-18 05:04
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 120 drew 25-Jun-18 05:32
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 123 Eddie Larry 25-Jun-18 16:21
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 144 Susan Doris 25-Jun-18 17:02
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 134 Eddie Larry 25-Jun-18 21:16
a circle for Susan 121 drew 25-Jun-18 22:36
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 118 drew 25-Jun-18 22:31
Re: do we like a circle or spiral? 154 Aham 25-Jun-18 09:58
Re: film 'The Surface Of Time' 123 drew 25-Jun-18 11:05
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 144 Susan Doris 25-Jun-18 05:04
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 128 drew 25-Jun-18 05:34
Excerpts from Jude's article 120 drew 25-Jun-18 11:52
Re: Excerpts from Jude's article 154 Susan Doris 25-Jun-18 12:06
Re: As few words as possible then... 124 drew 25-Jun-18 12:23
Re: Excerpts from Jude's article 145 Eddie Larry 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: Excerpts from Jude's article 143 Susan Doris 25-Jun-18 17:12
Re: Excerpts from Jude's article 138 Eddie Larry 25-Jun-18 20:58
Re: Excerpts from Jude's article 130 Susan Doris 26-Jun-18 05:01
a circle for Susan 133 drew 25-Jun-18 22:35
A vortex for gathering the facts of it all.... 137 Itatw70s 26-Jun-18 00:07
A vortex unravels 116 drew 26-Jun-18 00:38
Re: A vortex for gathering the facts of it all.... 133 Susan Doris 26-Jun-18 05:11
Still trying? 124 drew 26-Jun-18 09:20
Re: Still trying? 141 Itatw70s 26-Jun-18 11:46
Re: why try? 137 drew 26-Jun-18 13:30
Re: why try? 162 Itatw70s 26-Jun-18 13:43
Re: Excerpts from Jude's article 155 greengirl5 29-Jun-18 22:43
Re: Excerpts from Jude's article 125 Susan Doris 30-Jun-18 05:17
A river of information 136 drew 27-Jun-18 06:47
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 130 Itatw70s 29-Jun-18 00:20
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 186 drew 29-Jun-18 01:05
Re: The Secrets of the Holographic Universe 137 Itatw70s 29-Jun-18 11:46
the sharing of information 118 drew 29-Jun-18 19:39
Re: the sharing of information 128 Itatw70s 30-Jun-18 21:41
Re: the sharing of information 110 drew 01-Jul-18 02:11
Re: Does G_D Secret a Holographic Universe, Leaving only Query with Absurd Answers? 169 MLloydHudson 01-Jul-18 06:39
i am a bit simpler than that.. 127 drew 01-Jul-18 09:16
Re: i am a bit simpler than that.. 129 Itatw70s 01-Jul-18 13:43
The expression of information and do we know what is being expressed? 246 drew 03-Jul-18 01:10


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