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I can't quote the whole book! The two learned gentlemen discussed intelligence, and the Japanese seem not to have quite the same opinion of it as the English speaking world.

But I never the less will quote a chunk which I find very interesting.
Here goes: Chapter 7 - plants as brains. I had been looking into intelligence in nature for eighteen months, when a friend called to draw my attention to a recent article in the journal NATURE. It claimed that the investigation of plant intelligence is becoming a serious scientific endeavour, and that scientists are only now beginning to expose the remarkable complexity of plant behaviour.
These were the words of Anthony Trewavas, a professor of biology at the university of Edinburgh and a fellow of the Royal society, the oldest scientific society in Great Britain.
According to Trewavas, plants have intentions, make decisions, and compute complex aspects of their environment.

The author got to talk to Trewavas too.

A fascinating book.
Towards the end of that chapter he says that "Plants do not have brains, so much as act like them".

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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I get the same impression, as Susan always
> ends up with that as the ultimate. And of course
> WE are the most wonderful that has happened on
> this planet!
> You're right of course - most of us have not
> radically changed our views, but as I never tire
> of saying, it is the discussion, the exchange of
> views, which is the important thing; it is a
> process which leaves us all looking forward to the
> next one with a group of friends we have known for
> years. As to the second point, the clearest thing
> that nature has for us is the fact that
> cockroaches are the tops and superior in evolution
> and stickability than any other species!
>
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I am reading a book by Jeremy Narby called
> "Intelligence in Nature" (An inquiry into
> knowledge).
>
> In it he meets with a Japanese scientist,
> Nakagaki, who has studied slime mold for many
> years, and together with another Japanese
> scientist and a Hungarian had discovered that true
> slime mold, Physarum Polycephalum, CAN
> CONSISTANTLY SOLVE A MAZE!
>
> The author now asks "if a single cell of yellowy
> slime can solve a maze, does this not confirm that
> the entire edifice of life contains intelligence".
>
>
> He read about it first in scientific papers, then
> wrote to professor Nakagaki and was granted a
> meeting with him. They had an enjoyable day of
> talking science and discussing intelligence and
> western and eastern religious views.
>
> Yes, the information about slime moulds is
> fascinating, in a rather yucky sort of way! What
> we humans label intelligence, though, is really a
> word to sum up an animal's (animals = every living
> creature’s) adaptability which of course it has
> because of lucky random mutations and natural
> selection.
>
> ETA: I guarantee absolutely that I will instantly
> believe in a supernatural God/etc the minute such
> a thing is verified objectively by people
> achieving independent checkable results. Reason:
> it will then be natural and part of our knowledge
> base, not supernatural. It wwill be accepted as
> fact, not fiction!!
> /Susan



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Sin - do you?! 915 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 119 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 109 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 106 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 107 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 101 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 109 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 98 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 92 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 97 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 97 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 97 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 93 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 86 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 91 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 99 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 97 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 101 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 106 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 110 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 105 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 93 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 96 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 97 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 94 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 116 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 91 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 95 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 94 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 92 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 95 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 91 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 96 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 133 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 89 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 86 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 87 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 95 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 92 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 108 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 87 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 109 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 109 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 129 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 103 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 89 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 85 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 85 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 84 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 92 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 91 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 87 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 83 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 114 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 98 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 156 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 127 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 146 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 96 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 93 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 82 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 88 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 106 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 85 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 102 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 85 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 109 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 86 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 84 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 87 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 92 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 88 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 114 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 91 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 97 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 107 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 88 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 93 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 88 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 85 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 85 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 107 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 85 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 111 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 89 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 84 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 88 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 89 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 84 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 93 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 86 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 120 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 124 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 114 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 147 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 95 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 103 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 99 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 110 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 84 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 88 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 106 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 88 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 85 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 102 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 86 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 97 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 86 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 78 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 85 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 112 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 96 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 86 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 90 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 82 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 91 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 83 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 96 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 92 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 91 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 99 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 97 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 95 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 89 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 90 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 77 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 92 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 93 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 90 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 103 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 92 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 96 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 90 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 106 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 106 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 113 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 139 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 169 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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