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I can't quote the whole book! The two learned gentlemen discussed intelligence, and the Japanese seem not to have quite the same opinion of it as the English speaking world.

But I never the less will quote a chunk which I find very interesting.
Here goes: Chapter 7 - plants as brains. I had been looking into intelligence in nature for eighteen months, when a friend called to draw my attention to a recent article in the journal NATURE. It claimed that the investigation of plant intelligence is becoming a serious scientific endeavour, and that scientists are only now beginning to expose the remarkable complexity of plant behaviour.
These were the words of Anthony Trewavas, a professor of biology at the university of Edinburgh and a fellow of the Royal society, the oldest scientific society in Great Britain.
According to Trewavas, plants have intentions, make decisions, and compute complex aspects of their environment.

The author got to talk to Trewavas too.

A fascinating book.
Towards the end of that chapter he says that "Plants do not have brains, so much as act like them".

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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I get the same impression, as Susan always
> ends up with that as the ultimate. And of course
> WE are the most wonderful that has happened on
> this planet!
> You're right of course - most of us have not
> radically changed our views, but as I never tire
> of saying, it is the discussion, the exchange of
> views, which is the important thing; it is a
> process which leaves us all looking forward to the
> next one with a group of friends we have known for
> years. As to the second point, the clearest thing
> that nature has for us is the fact that
> cockroaches are the tops and superior in evolution
> and stickability than any other species!
>
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I am reading a book by Jeremy Narby called
> "Intelligence in Nature" (An inquiry into
> knowledge).
>
> In it he meets with a Japanese scientist,
> Nakagaki, who has studied slime mold for many
> years, and together with another Japanese
> scientist and a Hungarian had discovered that true
> slime mold, Physarum Polycephalum, CAN
> CONSISTANTLY SOLVE A MAZE!
>
> The author now asks "if a single cell of yellowy
> slime can solve a maze, does this not confirm that
> the entire edifice of life contains intelligence".
>
>
> He read about it first in scientific papers, then
> wrote to professor Nakagaki and was granted a
> meeting with him. They had an enjoyable day of
> talking science and discussing intelligence and
> western and eastern religious views.
>
> Yes, the information about slime moulds is
> fascinating, in a rather yucky sort of way! What
> we humans label intelligence, though, is really a
> word to sum up an animal's (animals = every living
> creature’s) adaptability which of course it has
> because of lucky random mutations and natural
> selection.
>
> ETA: I guarantee absolutely that I will instantly
> believe in a supernatural God/etc the minute such
> a thing is verified objectively by people
> achieving independent checkable results. Reason:
> it will then be natural and part of our knowledge
> base, not supernatural. It wwill be accepted as
> fact, not fiction!!
> /Susan



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Re: Sin - do you?! 184 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
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Re: Sin - do you?! 175 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 161 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 168 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 172 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 162 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 PB Bytes 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 170 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 158 PB Bytes 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 142 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 174 PB Bytes 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 154 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 164 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 171 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 167 PB Bytes 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 223 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 171 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 183 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 211 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 179 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 159 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 158 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 172 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 166 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 196 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 189 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 207 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 152 PB Bytes 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 159 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 159 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 159 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 170 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 158 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 171 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 246 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
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Re: Sinners and money-lenders 165 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 152 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
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Re: Sin - do you?! 172 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
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Re: Sin - do you?! 175 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
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Re: Sin - do you?! 158 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 182 PB Bytes 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 164 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 171 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 152 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 158 PB Bytes 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 166 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 212 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 201 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 193 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 178 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 166 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 147 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 160 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 155 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 168 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 173 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 154 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 151 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 205 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 176 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 227 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 191 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 234 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 157 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 167 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 152 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 161 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 178 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 140 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 188 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 147 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 205 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 145 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 146 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 158 PB Bytes 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 166 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 148 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 208 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 170 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 164 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 187 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 155 PB Bytes 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 162 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 164 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 147 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 157 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 183 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 154 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 189 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 151 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 155 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 162 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 156 PB Bytes 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 152 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 164 PB Bytes 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 158 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 180 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 185 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 183 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 234 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
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Re: Thinking in earnest now 167 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 192 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 157 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 155 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 183 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 163 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 172 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 146 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 137 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 161 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 206 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 222 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 158 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 151 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 159 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 170 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 149 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 170 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 152 PB Bytes 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 164 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 171 PB Bytes 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 162 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 159 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 162 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 157 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 144 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 170 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 157 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 173 PB Bytes 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 214 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 165 PB Bytes 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 160 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 171 PB Bytes 31-May-18 17:35
Job 177 PB Bytes 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 166 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 183 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 210 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 279 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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