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I can't quote the whole book! The two learned gentlemen discussed intelligence, and the Japanese seem not to have quite the same opinion of it as the English speaking world.

But I never the less will quote a chunk which I find very interesting.
Here goes: Chapter 7 - plants as brains. I had been looking into intelligence in nature for eighteen months, when a friend called to draw my attention to a recent article in the journal NATURE. It claimed that the investigation of plant intelligence is becoming a serious scientific endeavour, and that scientists are only now beginning to expose the remarkable complexity of plant behaviour.
These were the words of Anthony Trewavas, a professor of biology at the university of Edinburgh and a fellow of the Royal society, the oldest scientific society in Great Britain.
According to Trewavas, plants have intentions, make decisions, and compute complex aspects of their environment.

The author got to talk to Trewavas too.

A fascinating book.
Towards the end of that chapter he says that "Plants do not have brains, so much as act like them".

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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I get the same impression, as Susan always
> ends up with that as the ultimate. And of course
> WE are the most wonderful that has happened on
> this planet!
> You're right of course - most of us have not
> radically changed our views, but as I never tire
> of saying, it is the discussion, the exchange of
> views, which is the important thing; it is a
> process which leaves us all looking forward to the
> next one with a group of friends we have known for
> years. As to the second point, the clearest thing
> that nature has for us is the fact that
> cockroaches are the tops and superior in evolution
> and stickability than any other species!
>
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I am reading a book by Jeremy Narby called
> "Intelligence in Nature" (An inquiry into
> knowledge).
>
> In it he meets with a Japanese scientist,
> Nakagaki, who has studied slime mold for many
> years, and together with another Japanese
> scientist and a Hungarian had discovered that true
> slime mold, Physarum Polycephalum, CAN
> CONSISTANTLY SOLVE A MAZE!
>
> The author now asks "if a single cell of yellowy
> slime can solve a maze, does this not confirm that
> the entire edifice of life contains intelligence".
>
>
> He read about it first in scientific papers, then
> wrote to professor Nakagaki and was granted a
> meeting with him. They had an enjoyable day of
> talking science and discussing intelligence and
> western and eastern religious views.
>
> Yes, the information about slime moulds is
> fascinating, in a rather yucky sort of way! What
> we humans label intelligence, though, is really a
> word to sum up an animal's (animals = every living
> creature’s) adaptability which of course it has
> because of lucky random mutations and natural
> selection.
>
> ETA: I guarantee absolutely that I will instantly
> believe in a supernatural God/etc the minute such
> a thing is verified objectively by people
> achieving independent checkable results. Reason:
> it will then be natural and part of our knowledge
> base, not supernatural. It wwill be accepted as
> fact, not fiction!!
> /Susan



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Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 133 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 119 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 122 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 121 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 121 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 116 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 107 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 119 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 117 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 119 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 162 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 153 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 128 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 114 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 121 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 121 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 118 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 159 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 141 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 168 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 115 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 120 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 118 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 116 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 119 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 117 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 120 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 174 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 114 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 111 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 110 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 120 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 119 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 120 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 119 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 115 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 121 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 121 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 110 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 117 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 118 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 134 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 140 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 152 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 127 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 112 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 109 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 109 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 108 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 116 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 119 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 113 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 110 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 143 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 123 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 190 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 151 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 181 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 120 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 116 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 105 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 115 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 134 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 105 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 135 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 109 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 135 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 109 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 107 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 109 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 115 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 111 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 149 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 117 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 121 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 143 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 113 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 119 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 113 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 110 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 110 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 140 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 109 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 150 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 112 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 108 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 112 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 113 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 110 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 117 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 110 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 144 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 147 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 141 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 180 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 118 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 132 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 122 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 139 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 108 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 112 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 139 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 113 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 110 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 138 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 111 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 129 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 110 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 97 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 109 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 148 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 140 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 109 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 113 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 117 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 115 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 107 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 120 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 115 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 115 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 124 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 120 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 119 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 113 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 116 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 98 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 119 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 117 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 114 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 144 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 115 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 120 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 116 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 130 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 131 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 136 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 162 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 211 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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