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I can't quote the whole book! The two learned gentlemen discussed intelligence, and the Japanese seem not to have quite the same opinion of it as the English speaking world.

But I never the less will quote a chunk which I find very interesting.
Here goes: Chapter 7 - plants as brains. I had been looking into intelligence in nature for eighteen months, when a friend called to draw my attention to a recent article in the journal NATURE. It claimed that the investigation of plant intelligence is becoming a serious scientific endeavour, and that scientists are only now beginning to expose the remarkable complexity of plant behaviour.
These were the words of Anthony Trewavas, a professor of biology at the university of Edinburgh and a fellow of the Royal society, the oldest scientific society in Great Britain.
According to Trewavas, plants have intentions, make decisions, and compute complex aspects of their environment.

The author got to talk to Trewavas too.

A fascinating book.
Towards the end of that chapter he says that "Plants do not have brains, so much as act like them".

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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I get the same impression, as Susan always
> ends up with that as the ultimate. And of course
> WE are the most wonderful that has happened on
> this planet!
> You're right of course - most of us have not
> radically changed our views, but as I never tire
> of saying, it is the discussion, the exchange of
> views, which is the important thing; it is a
> process which leaves us all looking forward to the
> next one with a group of friends we have known for
> years. As to the second point, the clearest thing
> that nature has for us is the fact that
> cockroaches are the tops and superior in evolution
> and stickability than any other species!
>
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I am reading a book by Jeremy Narby called
> "Intelligence in Nature" (An inquiry into
> knowledge).
>
> In it he meets with a Japanese scientist,
> Nakagaki, who has studied slime mold for many
> years, and together with another Japanese
> scientist and a Hungarian had discovered that true
> slime mold, Physarum Polycephalum, CAN
> CONSISTANTLY SOLVE A MAZE!
>
> The author now asks "if a single cell of yellowy
> slime can solve a maze, does this not confirm that
> the entire edifice of life contains intelligence".
>
>
> He read about it first in scientific papers, then
> wrote to professor Nakagaki and was granted a
> meeting with him. They had an enjoyable day of
> talking science and discussing intelligence and
> western and eastern religious views.
>
> Yes, the information about slime moulds is
> fascinating, in a rather yucky sort of way! What
> we humans label intelligence, though, is really a
> word to sum up an animal's (animals = every living
> creature’s) adaptability which of course it has
> because of lucky random mutations and natural
> selection.
>
> ETA: I guarantee absolutely that I will instantly
> believe in a supernatural God/etc the minute such
> a thing is verified objectively by people
> achieving independent checkable results. Reason:
> it will then be natural and part of our knowledge
> base, not supernatural. It wwill be accepted as
> fact, not fiction!!
> /Susan



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Re: Sin - do you?! 171 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 173 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 158 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 164 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 151 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 162 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 152 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 151 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 147 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 162 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 154 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 156 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 157 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 209 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 159 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 171 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 202 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 169 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 150 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 149 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 161 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 157 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 185 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 179 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 196 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 142 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 149 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 148 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 147 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 159 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 148 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 160 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 232 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 147 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 153 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 140 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 150 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 149 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 164 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 147 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 173 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 154 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 159 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 154 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 185 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 188 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 182 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 166 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 156 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 138 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 149 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 141 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 158 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 159 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 143 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 140 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 194 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 163 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 216 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 180 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 223 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 146 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 157 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 141 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 149 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 162 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 130 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 177 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 137 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 193 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 135 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 135 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 145 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 155 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 138 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 195 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 158 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 151 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 177 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 145 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 152 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 153 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 138 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 146 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 172 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 143 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 180 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 141 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 144 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 151 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 144 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 141 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 150 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 147 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 170 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 176 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 173 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 221 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 145 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 169 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 152 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 183 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 149 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 156 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 178 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 146 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 143 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 173 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 151 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 159 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 136 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 127 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 150 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 192 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 207 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 147 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 142 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 150 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 159 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 138 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 159 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 142 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 154 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 161 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 151 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 148 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 150 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 146 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 135 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 161 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 147 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 161 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 203 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 154 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 149 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 159 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 166 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 156 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 172 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 199 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 264 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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