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I get the same impression, as Susan always ends up with that as the ultimate. And of course WE are the most wonderful that has happened on this planet!
You're right of course - most of us have not radically changed our views, but as I never tire of saying, it is the discussion, the exchange of views, which is the important thing; it is a process which leaves us all looking forward to the next one with a group of friends we have known for years. As to the second point, the clearest thing that nature has for us is the fact that cockroaches are the tops and superior in evolution and stickability than any other species!
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I am reading a book by Jeremy Narby called "Intelligence in Nature" (An inquiry into knowledge).

In it he meets with a Japanese scientist, Nakagaki, who has studied slime mold for many years, and together with another Japanese scientist and a Hungarian had discovered that true slime mold, Physarum Polycephalum, CAN CONSISTANTLY SOLVE A MAZE!

The author now asks "if a single cell of yellowy slime can solve a maze, does this not confirm that the entire edifice of life contains intelligence".

He read about it first in scientific papers, then wrote to professor Nakagaki and was granted a meeting with him. They had an enjoyable day of talking science and discussing intelligence and western and eastern religious views.
Yes, the information about slime moulds is fascinating, in a rather yucky sort of way! What we humans label intelligence, though, is really a word to sum up an animal's (animals = every living creature’s) adaptability which of course it has because of lucky random mutations and natural selection.

ETA: I guarantee absolutely that I will instantly believe in a supernatural God/etc the minute such a thing is verified objectively by people achieving independent checkable results. Reason: it will then be natural and part of our knowledge base, not supernatural. It wwill be accepted as fact, not fiction!!
/Susan



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Sin - do you?! 1036 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 155 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 140 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 143 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 137 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 133 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 115 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 172 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 140 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 173 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 137 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 120 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 130 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 130 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 127 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 166 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 149 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 178 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 129 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 124 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 129 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 130 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 129 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 191 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 123 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 120 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 120 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 130 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 130 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 141 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 116 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 141 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 152 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 161 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 133 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 120 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 117 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 116 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 116 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 126 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 127 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 123 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 120 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 158 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 131 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 198 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 158 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 190 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 129 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 124 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 110 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 125 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 141 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 112 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 147 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 118 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 154 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 116 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 115 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 115 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 124 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 119 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 157 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 125 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 130 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 151 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 123 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 130 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 122 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 118 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 116 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 147 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 115 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 159 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 121 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 114 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 119 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 123 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 120 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 127 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 117 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 151 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 156 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 149 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 190 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 127 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 141 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 132 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 150 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 115 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 122 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 149 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 123 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 120 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 149 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 120 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 139 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 118 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 101 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 117 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 157 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 162 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 116 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 123 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 133 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 127 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 116 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 127 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 124 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 122 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 132 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 129 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 127 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 119 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 126 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 104 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 126 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 127 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 124 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 165 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 121 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 128 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 124 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 137 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 138 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 145 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 169 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 233 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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