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This really could get into metaphysics. Are there 'beings of higher rank' than humans?
So far, all the evidence of all the scientific disciplines leads to the conclusion that, no, there is not. All, bar none, of the conjectures are imagined,** and, however fascinating the discussion that those who believe - with a 100% faith belief - that there are, need to come up with the one objective fact that will change this situation. Such a fact would then become part of our knowledge base.
**I assume the usual caveat of the vanishingly remotely possible chance that one god/spirit/etc might appear ne day.
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Something that does come up on this board from time to time. :) Personally, I wasn't thinking of some other 'authority', I was thinking of laws of cause and effect more like karma. Which humans could not alter any more than the laws of physics.
Here again, karma is a word, a humanly nvented word, to describe an imagined connection between unconnected events etc.
Cause and effect, when evidenced using the scientificmethod, is as reliable as itcould be!

If the metaphysics discussion is a good idea, may I ask you to start a new topic? Thank you.

Susan

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Sin - do you?! 1037 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 156 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 145 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 142 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 137 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 133 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 115 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 137 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 172 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 133 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 140 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 173 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 137 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 120 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 130 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 131 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 127 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 166 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 149 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 178 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 129 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 125 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 130 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 130 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 130 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 191 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 123 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 120 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 120 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 130 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 130 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 133 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 142 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 116 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 142 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 152 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 161 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 133 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 120 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 117 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 116 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 116 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 126 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 127 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 123 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 120 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 161 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 131 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 198 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 158 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 190 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 129 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 124 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 111 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 125 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 142 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 112 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 147 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 118 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 154 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 117 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 116 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 115 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 124 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 119 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 157 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 125 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 130 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 151 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 124 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 130 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 122 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 118 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 116 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 148 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 115 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 159 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 121 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 114 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 119 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 123 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 120 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 127 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 117 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 151 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 156 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 149 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 190 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 127 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 141 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 132 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 151 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 116 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 122 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 150 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 123 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 120 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 149 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 121 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 139 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 118 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 102 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 118 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 157 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 163 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 117 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 123 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 133 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 127 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 116 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 127 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 124 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 122 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 133 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 129 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 127 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 120 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 126 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 104 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 126 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 127 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 125 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 167 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 121 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 128 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 125 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 137 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 138 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 145 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 170 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 233 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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