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So, my own conclusion is that 'sin' and 'evil' are very real, but born of the
separation that necessarily follows immersion into the sub-infinite realms.

This is basically a paraphrase of the Augustine/Boethius position. Evil is privation of good -- separation from God/original perfection. But they concluded that this means evil is not real. :) It's a side effect of creation, the unfolding of differing levels of decreasing perfection needed to make "the universe" as something different from God.

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Sin - do you?! 915 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 119 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 110 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 106 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 108 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 102 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 109 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 98 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 92 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 97 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 97 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 97 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 93 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 86 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 92 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 99 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 97 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 130 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 101 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 106 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 111 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 105 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 93 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 96 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 97 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 94 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 116 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 91 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 95 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 94 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 92 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 95 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 91 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 96 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 133 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 89 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 86 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 87 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 95 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 92 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 108 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 96 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 87 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 94 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 109 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 109 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 129 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 103 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 89 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 85 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 85 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 85 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 92 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 91 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 88 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 83 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 115 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 98 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 156 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 127 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 146 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 96 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 93 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 82 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 88 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 106 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 85 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 102 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 85 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 109 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 86 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 84 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 87 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 92 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 88 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 114 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 91 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 97 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 107 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 88 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 94 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 89 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 85 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 85 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 107 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 85 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 111 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 89 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 84 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 88 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 90 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 84 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 93 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 86 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 120 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 124 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 114 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 147 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 95 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 103 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 99 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 110 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 84 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 88 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 106 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 88 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 85 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 102 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 86 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 97 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 86 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 78 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 86 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 112 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 97 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 86 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 90 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 83 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 91 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 83 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 96 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 93 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 91 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 99 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 97 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 96 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 89 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 90 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 77 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 92 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 93 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 90 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 104 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 92 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 96 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 90 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 106 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 106 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 113 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 139 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 169 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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