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Okay, you've shifted the goal posts in mid-game, as we say
sometimes in sports.
For a start, I did not set up ‘goal posts’, as that would be to stultify a discussion before it begins.
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That's fine, but where are you going with this thread. What was you’re intention, other than to have a chat?
As this is a discussion, it would not help to determine and state where it must go. I started with some questions and I hope that, while the general theme wil be adhered to, plenty of different ideas will be brought forward so that we can enjoy the exchange and maybe learn something we didn’t know before.
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It sounds as if your objection is others' use of the word
'sin' vs something else, 'mistakes' or a worse term, if the
violation warrants such a label. If your objection is to the
word 'sin', then aren't you really just projecting your
secular philosophy here, picking another subject that will
predictably lead to the same (secular specific) conclusion?
I don’t ‘object’ to the word sin – it is a part of the English language and is a normal word, even though it is in much less current use. I am, however interested in hearing where people think a wrong-doing must or can be labelled as sin and why.
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To Nolondil's point, as you describe it here. I still find it
lacking. Frankly, I am in very firm agreement with the idea
of transgressions, or many of them, evolving from 'missing the
target' to excessive guilt. No dispute there, but to describe
the worst of humanity's premeditated acts as 'missing the
target' which later became distorted as 'sin', overlooks a lot.
Susan, what's you're take on how those worst behaviors relate
to Nolondil's discussion on the etymology of 'sin'?
That it is very interesting to learn how words change in spelling and sound an, inevitably perhaps, in meaning.

Also – this isn’t a sort of test with right or wrong answers” 

Susan

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Sin - do you?! 1093 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 183 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 169 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 168 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 170 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 155 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 159 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 148 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 155 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 158 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 149 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 157 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 143 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 159 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 141 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 149 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 148 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 153 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 202 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 155 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 166 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 198 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 167 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 147 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 145 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 159 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 152 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 182 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 176 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 193 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 139 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 145 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 144 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 144 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 154 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 145 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 156 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 226 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 142 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 149 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 138 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 156 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 145 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 161 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 156 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 145 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 169 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 148 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 156 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 140 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 142 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 150 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 179 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 182 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 179 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 164 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 152 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 134 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 145 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 134 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 153 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 155 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 138 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 137 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 190 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 159 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 212 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 175 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 218 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 143 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 152 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 137 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 143 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 158 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 126 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 175 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 133 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 189 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 132 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 133 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 141 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 151 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 135 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 191 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 155 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 147 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 172 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 140 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 148 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 149 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 134 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 143 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 169 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 140 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 176 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 136 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 141 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 147 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 139 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 136 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 146 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 144 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 167 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 172 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 170 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 218 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 141 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 164 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 148 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 180 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 145 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 153 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 174 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 142 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 139 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 168 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 147 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 155 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 132 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 124 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 147 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 187 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 202 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 144 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 138 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 147 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 155 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 134 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 156 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 139 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 150 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 159 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 145 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 145 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 148 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 142 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 132 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 157 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 144 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 157 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 198 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 152 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 144 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 156 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 163 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 154 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 169 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 196 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 258 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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