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Okay, you've shifted the goal posts in mid-game, as we say
sometimes in sports.
For a start, I did not set up ‘goal posts’, as that would be to stultify a discussion before it begins.
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That's fine, but where are you going with this thread. What was you’re intention, other than to have a chat?
As this is a discussion, it would not help to determine and state where it must go. I started with some questions and I hope that, while the general theme wil be adhered to, plenty of different ideas will be brought forward so that we can enjoy the exchange and maybe learn something we didn’t know before.
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It sounds as if your objection is others' use of the word
'sin' vs something else, 'mistakes' or a worse term, if the
violation warrants such a label. If your objection is to the
word 'sin', then aren't you really just projecting your
secular philosophy here, picking another subject that will
predictably lead to the same (secular specific) conclusion?
I don’t ‘object’ to the word sin – it is a part of the English language and is a normal word, even though it is in much less current use. I am, however interested in hearing where people think a wrong-doing must or can be labelled as sin and why.
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To Nolondil's point, as you describe it here. I still find it
lacking. Frankly, I am in very firm agreement with the idea
of transgressions, or many of them, evolving from 'missing the
target' to excessive guilt. No dispute there, but to describe
the worst of humanity's premeditated acts as 'missing the
target' which later became distorted as 'sin', overlooks a lot.
Susan, what's you're take on how those worst behaviors relate
to Nolondil's discussion on the etymology of 'sin'?
That it is very interesting to learn how words change in spelling and sound an, inevitably perhaps, in meaning.

Also – this isn’t a sort of test with right or wrong answers” 

Susan

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Sin - do you?! 1020 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 149 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 134 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 139 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 129 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 112 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 122 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 133 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 167 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 168 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 133 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 117 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 126 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 126 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 123 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 163 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 175 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 121 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 125 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 122 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 125 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 125 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 126 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 185 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 121 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 118 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 117 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 130 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 113 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 122 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 122 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 148 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 158 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 131 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 116 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 113 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 113 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 112 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 121 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 124 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 119 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 117 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 151 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 127 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 194 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 155 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 186 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 125 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 120 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 108 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 121 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 138 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 109 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 143 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 114 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 147 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 113 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 112 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 112 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 119 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 116 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 155 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 122 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 125 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 149 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 119 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 127 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 118 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 114 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 114 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 144 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 112 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 156 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 117 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 112 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 117 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 120 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 117 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 124 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 114 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 148 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 152 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 145 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 187 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 124 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 136 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 128 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 148 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 112 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 118 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 145 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 120 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 117 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 146 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 117 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 135 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 115 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 99 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 114 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 154 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 154 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 113 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 117 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 130 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 121 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 112 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 124 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 121 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 120 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 128 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 125 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 124 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 117 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 122 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 102 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 123 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 124 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 120 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 159 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 119 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 125 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 122 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 134 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 136 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 140 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 166 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 230 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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