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Susan Doris Wrote:
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What about 'sin' prior to the churches'
> declaration of such a concept.
> Interesting point - however , I think Nolondil's
> point about the etymology of the word explains
> that.
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Susan's extreme point is that the serial
> murderer, who plots ways to kill hurt and maim, is
> just making a "mistake" which can't be sin. Rather
> simplistic, don't you think?
> That is mis-representing me somewhat - I used the
> word mistake to start with but have since made it
> clear that all wrong-doing can be put on a scale
> of least harmful to maximum harmful.
>
> Susan

Okay, you've shifted the goal posts in mid-game, as we say
sometimes in sports. That's fine, but where are you going
with this thread. What was your intention, other than to
have a chat?

It sounds as if your objection is others' use of the word
'sin' vs something else, 'mistakes' or a worse term, if the
violation warrants such a label. If your objection is to the
word 'sin', then aren't you really just projecting your
secular philosophy here, picking another subject that will
predictably lead to the same (secular specific) conclusion?
We all know that you don't believe
in 'sin', as a believer might use the term. What's new about
this post, Susan?

To Nolondil's point, as you describe it here. I still find it
lacking. Frankly, I am in very firm agreement with the idea
of transgressions, or many of them, evolving from 'missing the
target' to excessive guilt. No dispute there, but to describe
the worst of humanity's premeditated acts as 'missing the
target' which later became distorted as 'sin', overlooks a lot.
So Susan, what's you're take on how those worst behaviors relate
to Nolondil's discussion on the etymology of 'sin'?

Cheers, PB



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 31-May-18 15:37 by Poster Boy.

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Sin - do you?! 1010 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 148 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 137 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 122 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 121 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 111 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 120 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 165 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 131 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 116 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 124 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 125 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 122 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 173 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 119 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 123 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 120 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 123 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 123 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 123 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 181 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 118 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 115 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 115 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 122 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 120 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 124 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 112 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 121 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 120 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 156 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 129 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 115 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 112 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 111 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 110 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 120 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 122 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 118 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 114 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 145 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 125 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 192 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 153 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 185 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 124 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 119 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 106 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 118 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 136 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 108 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 142 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 113 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 139 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 112 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 111 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 111 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 118 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 114 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 153 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 121 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 124 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 145 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 116 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 123 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 115 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 112 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 112 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 142 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 110 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 155 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 115 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 110 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 114 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 117 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 113 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 121 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 113 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 145 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 151 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 143 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 185 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 121 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 134 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 127 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 141 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 110 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 117 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 144 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 118 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 114 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 143 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 114 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 133 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 112 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 98 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 113 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 150 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 146 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 111 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 115 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 123 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 119 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 109 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 122 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 117 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 116 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 127 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 124 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 122 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 116 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 120 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 100 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 121 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 121 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 118 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 150 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 116 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 123 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 119 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 132 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 133 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 139 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 164 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 222 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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