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Susan Doris Wrote:
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What about 'sin' prior to the churches'
> declaration of such a concept.
> Interesting point - however , I think Nolondil's
> point about the etymology of the word explains
> that.
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Susan's extreme point is that the serial
> murderer, who plots ways to kill hurt and maim, is
> just making a "mistake" which can't be sin. Rather
> simplistic, don't you think?
> That is mis-representing me somewhat - I used the
> word mistake to start with but have since made it
> clear that all wrong-doing can be put on a scale
> of least harmful to maximum harmful.
>
> Susan

Okay, you've shifted the goal posts in mid-game, as we say
sometimes in sports. That's fine, but where are you going
with this thread. What was your intention, other than to
have a chat?

It sounds as if your objection is others' use of the word
'sin' vs something else, 'mistakes' or a worse term, if the
violation warrants such a label. If your objection is to the
word 'sin', then aren't you really just projecting your
secular philosophy here, picking another subject that will
predictably lead to the same (secular specific) conclusion?
We all know that you don't believe
in 'sin', as a believer might use the term. What's new about
this post, Susan?

To Nolondil's point, as you describe it here. I still find it
lacking. Frankly, I am in very firm agreement with the idea
of transgressions, or many of them, evolving from 'missing the
target' to excessive guilt. No dispute there, but to describe
the worst of humanity's premeditated acts as 'missing the
target' which later became distorted as 'sin', overlooks a lot.
So Susan, what's you're take on how those worst behaviors relate
to Nolondil's discussion on the etymology of 'sin'?

Cheers, PB



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 31-May-18 15:37 by Poster Boy.

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Sin - do you?! 1045 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 158 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 147 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 139 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 133 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 134 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 116 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 130 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 133 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 141 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 175 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 134 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 175 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 142 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 122 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 132 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 132 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 129 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 169 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 152 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 180 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 130 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 127 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 132 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 131 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 132 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 196 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 126 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 124 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 123 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 134 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 118 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 163 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 137 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 124 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 118 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 119 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 119 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 127 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 130 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 125 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 122 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 164 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 133 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 200 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 160 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 192 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 130 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 126 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 114 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 126 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 144 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 113 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 149 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 119 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 159 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 119 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 117 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 117 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 125 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 121 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 161 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 128 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 131 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 156 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 126 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 132 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 124 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 120 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 120 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 149 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 118 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 161 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 124 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 118 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 122 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 125 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 123 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 129 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 120 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 154 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 157 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 153 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 193 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 129 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 142 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 133 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 154 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 118 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 124 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 151 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 125 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 125 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 153 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 124 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 140 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 120 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 103 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 121 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 161 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 173 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 120 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 125 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 134 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 129 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 119 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 131 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 126 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 126 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 134 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 130 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 129 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 123 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 128 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 106 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 129 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 129 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 128 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 178 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 125 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 131 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 128 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 140 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 140 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 146 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 171 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 235 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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