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While I have long time now studied the Scriptures, I by NO MEANS know it all, nor do I claim to be some sort of Saint
I live still within a shell of flesh and blood. I am no less a sinner today (in the flesh) than I was the first time I was born (broke through the water into this epoch.

I surmise that with each passing day I die a little (become less attached to this world, to the things of flesh and blood). On my journey (through this world (this life) I've learned more of how little I genuinely know. I'm sixty now (soon sixty one, should I see the middle of July), and I am barely a toddler. Where once I ran like the wind, today I barely manage to walk. Ah, but such are the ways of this existence. Knowing so little, the best I do is attempt to follow where the Spirit leads. May the Spirit lead us now.

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That makes me think further: without a hell and eternal damnation, would people be so scared of sinning? Lots of people get away with all sorts of sins and crimes. Hmmm, in this life!

I didn't know the slightest thing about hell and eternal damnation at five years old, but...

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

How many people do you know who get away with any sin or wrong who do not eventually give up the ghost? Who has ever broken the law that you know personally or even by hearsay who 'got away with it'?

While in the body (dwelling in this mortal coil of flesh and blood), I may have temporarily escaped the judgement of my peers, but the day has not yet arrived when I will stand before the one who judges us all by our works (our deeds/misdeeds). Only too well do I (and I only among my peers) know how I have broken the law and how often. Even before I believed in a higher power (whom I choose to call by name, my Father (my heavenly Father)), even prior to knowing my mom or dad were higher powers (at the time), I would have to say I knew (instinctively) whether I were doing something I should be doing as opposed to a things I had no business doing. I was never always in the right, but I was often in the wrong (yes, I admit, I have stuck something into a power outlet to learn what happens). :O

At five, I made my first real friend. His house sat caddy-cornered across from my own abode (in other words I had to cross two streets to get to his house on the opposite corner. I had been told to look both ways prior to attempting to cross any street, "Look left, look right, then look again to the left," so went the precept (the 'rule' or 'law') as I was taught it. One particular day (no one day in particular, just one of those daysI suppose) this day I decided it was high time to pay my new friend a friendly visit (around Kool-Aid time, I believe it was).

I received permission from the adult in charge of watching over me (at that particular time, it was a friend of my parents, named Jerry), so I proceeded on my way. I walked to the corner, looked left, then right, then left again and proceeded to cross the street. Halfway there now, one street left to go. It was a beautiful bright sunny summer day, as I recall now The sun was out, whether or not any particulate clouds may have been wafting about somewhere high overhead, I do not now recall. Perhaps I never paid particular mind to such fine details (I do feel confident I was in general an observant youth, but no more so than the average five year old boy that I was).

I looked to the left, to the right, back again to the left, and seeing nothing approaching from either direction, I proceeded to wrap my arms tightly around the stop sign at the corner and spun myself (fast and as hard as I could) around the sign (a couple of time at least) before proceeding into the street, crossing the second street to the house of my new friend. I did not quite make it there.

Though I had followed the direction (the precept, or law), a diversion had caused me not to follow it as precisely as I (in hindsight) should have. I would have to admit after being struck by the car (or was it 'my striking the car'? ...Oh, definitely the latter (praise G-D), otherwise I likely would not be sitting here typing this now), I may have been better off being admitted (to a medical facility) for examination. Not all thing occur as they perhaps should, but I somehow (many, many lessons later) survive still. Go figure.

The car I ran into was probably cruising along that residential street within normal limits (at between twenty five and thirty miles per hour (I apologize here, I'm not too bright with table conversions, besides being American, but I'll assume to those with whom it matters, you are likely more aware how fast that is in kilometers per hour)). I seem now to recall an initial 'THUD' as I struck the vehicles left rear quarter panel. That's about it, at least until I came to shortly thereafter, experiencing excruciating pain, in one of my legs as I remember it. That was over fifty five years ago; so, no, I do not recall which leg was hurting, but the way I get around now, causes me to deduce it was likely my right leg, but I digress...

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

I know not whether I was thrown from my body (out of body experience), but were it so, I returned quickly. Death had not won the victory, not yet. Had I followed the law precisely, the car may have struck me rather than the other way round. Perhaps one day that will be revealed to me in a dream (old men will dream dreams, the young men will have visions). I learned a lesson the hard way that day, follow the law precisely if I don't wish to become just one more traffic statistic. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could learn all of life's lessons all at once, while we're still here (in the body), rather than by recall at some remote point in the future, when we stand before the one who judges us by all our works?

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Sin - do you?! 1057 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 161 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 150 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 148 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 149 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 151 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 139 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 137 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 137 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 134 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 122 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 137 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 141 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 180 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 148 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 178 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 147 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 125 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 135 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 137 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 135 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 173 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 156 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 184 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 130 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 135 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 133 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 135 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 136 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 135 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 201 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 131 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 127 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 128 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 137 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 140 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 136 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 148 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 137 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 135 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 121 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 134 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 163 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 168 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 141 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 129 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 123 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 122 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 122 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 131 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 132 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 128 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 125 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 166 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 136 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 204 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 165 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 198 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 135 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 130 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 118 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 132 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 147 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 118 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 154 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 124 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 165 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 123 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 124 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 121 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 131 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 126 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 168 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 133 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 136 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 161 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 130 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 138 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 128 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 124 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 122 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 158 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 121 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 166 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 128 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 120 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 125 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 129 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 126 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 135 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 122 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 158 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 163 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 158 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 198 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 132 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 147 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 138 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 158 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 123 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 128 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 155 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 129 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 127 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 155 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 127 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 145 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 123 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 105 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 125 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 166 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 179 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 123 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 128 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 139 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 133 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 124 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 134 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 129 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 129 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 138 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 136 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 135 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 127 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 131 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 110 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 133 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 134 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 134 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 184 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 131 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 135 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 133 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 143 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 142 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 150 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 174 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 240 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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