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Usually Susan, I don’t use the word sin a lot. You brought it up.

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Susan stated
I'm not so sure about that. I take responsibility for any action I take but am aware that it is I, a human, who have done the wrong, thought the unkind thought, etc. I never think of any of it as sin ... ... since I have no religious overtones at all.

You were raised in a moderately religious household based on what you have told us in the past. You may have no religious overtones today, but don’t ignore the past!

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Susan state
Disagree! Secular people, humanists, atheists are usually well aware that morality dates from way, way back before Christianity. You would be very hard pushed to find a moral precept in Christianity that did not have plenty of precedents.

Christianity is the community that brought these ancient moral precedents to Europe and tried to enforce them. Did they wholly succeed? No but teaching ancient moral ideas is a good thing whatever the consequences. Remember culture is an intellectual set of beliefs that try to calm wild animals. Nothing always works!



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Sin - do you?! 969 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 125 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 117 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 112 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 115 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 118 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 115 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 115 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 111 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 103 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 114 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 110 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 119 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 114 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 118 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 153 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 118 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 123 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 121 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 108 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 114 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 115 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 111 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 151 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 132 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 110 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 113 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 113 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 110 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 113 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 109 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 113 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 161 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 107 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 104 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 105 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 114 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 112 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 113 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 115 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 112 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 110 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 126 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 114 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 114 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 103 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 111 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 110 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 128 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 131 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 147 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 120 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 106 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 103 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 102 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 102 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 110 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 111 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 107 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 103 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 133 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 116 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 174 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 144 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 165 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 115 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 110 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 98 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 107 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 127 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 101 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 127 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 103 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 127 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 103 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 101 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 104 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 109 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 106 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 134 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 111 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 115 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 127 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 107 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 112 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 107 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 103 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 102 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 125 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 101 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 137 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 106 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 101 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 106 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 108 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 102 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 112 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 104 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 137 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 142 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 131 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 166 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 112 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 123 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 117 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 131 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 101 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 106 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 130 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 106 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 103 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 128 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 104 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 119 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 103 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 93 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 103 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 138 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 124 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 102 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 107 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 106 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 109 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 100 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 113 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 110 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 108 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 116 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 114 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 113 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 106 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 108 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 93 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 110 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 111 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 108 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 130 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 109 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 113 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 109 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 123 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 123 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 129 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 156 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 193 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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