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Back in college which was a long time ago. I did s study on what in U S Catholicism was a document called the Boston Catechism. As I remember sin was an intentional, I.e., knowing violation of God’s laws. Therefore sin did not include traffic violation or spelling errors. Now, they did beak sins into mortal and venial.

Well, that is what I remember and after reading it, I thought that there was a lot less sin in the world then people thought.

Just my 2 cents.
Thank you for your post. Well, at least the RC church has had one strong counter to its ideas on sinning - the Irish Republic have voted down their 8th amendment. Hooray for the people there.

The thing is, though, that believers talk of 'God's laws'. Since all the available scientific and archaeological evidence seems to point in the direction of all these being human ideas, how do people convince themselves that there is a God to make laws in the first place?!

Susan

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Sin - do you?! 1092 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 182 Poster Boy 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 168 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 167 Poster Boy 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 169 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 153 Poster Boy 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 158 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 146 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 154 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 157 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 147 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 145 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 156 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 142 Poster Boy 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 127 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 158 Poster Boy 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 140 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 148 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 147 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 152 Poster Boy 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 201 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 154 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 165 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 197 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 166 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 146 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 143 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 158 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 151 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 181 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 175 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 192 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 138 Poster Boy 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 142 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 143 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 153 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 143 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 155 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 225 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 141 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 148 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 136 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 155 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Poster Boy 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 160 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 155 Poster Boy 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 144 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 168 Poster Boy 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 147 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 155 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 139 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 141 Poster Boy 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 149 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 178 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 181 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 178 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 163 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 151 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 133 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 144 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 131 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 152 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 154 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 137 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 135 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 189 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 158 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 211 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 174 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 217 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 142 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 151 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 136 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 142 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 156 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 125 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 174 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 132 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 188 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 131 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 132 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 140 Poster Boy 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 150 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 134 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 190 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 154 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 146 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 171 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 139 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 147 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 148 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 132 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 142 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 168 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 139 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 175 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 135 Poster Boy 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 140 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 146 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 138 Poster Boy 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 134 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 144 Poster Boy 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 143 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 165 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 171 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 169 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 217 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 139 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 163 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 147 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 179 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 144 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 152 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 173 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 140 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 138 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 167 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 146 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 153 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 131 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 123 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 146 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 186 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 200 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 143 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 136 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 146 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 154 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 133 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 155 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 137 Poster Boy 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 149 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 158 Poster Boy 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 144 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 144 Poster Boy 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 147 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 141 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 131 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 156 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 143 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 156 Poster Boy 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 197 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 151 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 143 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 155 Poster Boy 31-May-18 17:35
Job 162 Poster Boy 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 152 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 168 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 195 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 258 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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