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"I have vaguely noticed these two words recently in the posts, but taken no notice. Now I do.

Gee, I have no problem myself with thinking something has always been. Just because I believe in a cosmic intelligence does not mean I feel I have to explain what created it. It is the alpha and Omega. Eternity. I am born on an 8th. The sign which also means eternal. Is that why I have no trouble with it? "

The metaphysical paradigm you propose here, GG, is very coherently explained through Hindu philosophy. According to their model, the physical universe - which has a definite beginning - is merely an idea of God, whom they refer to as the Brahman, Who exists in an eternal realm that is beyond finite time-space considerations, in a mind-space that pervades, sustains and subsumes all of physical reality. Who knows, you may have been a member of the Brahmin caste in a past lifetime!

The 'infinite regression' argument is ultimately based on a futile attempt to impose what we know to be an outdated model of reality on to all of creation and that is its misstep. The problem is that the infinite regression argument is based on formal rules of logic and influenced by 17th century Cartesian-Newtonian thinking, which we now know has limited rather than universal application, through things like our understanding of quantum mechanics and relativity, where time and space are recognized as being interdependent, rather than separate, as we presumed they were until around a century ago.

As such, based on what we know, it makes no sense to presume that 17th-century thinking must apply to this mystery, which is what 'infinite regression' presumes as a first condition.

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There we have it: Plants make decisions! 754 greengirl5 28-Dec-17 19:33
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 132 Poster Boy 28-Dec-17 21:41
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 131 greengirl5 28-Dec-17 22:18
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 142 Poster Boy 31-Dec-17 20:30
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 116 Aine 31-Dec-17 20:35
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 111 Poster Boy 31-Dec-17 20:49
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 116 Aine 31-Dec-17 20:51
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 116 Poster Boy 31-Dec-17 20:54
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 111 Aine 31-Dec-17 21:51
What do they eat? 212 greengirl5 31-Dec-17 21:20
Re: What do they eat? 108 Poster Boy 31-Dec-17 23:21
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 108 Eddie Larry 28-Dec-17 21:44
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 108 greengirl5 28-Dec-17 22:17
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 107 Eddie Larry 29-Dec-17 04:34
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 127 Susan Doris 29-Dec-17 06:07
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 163 greengirl5 29-Dec-17 06:50
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 102 greengirl5 29-Dec-17 06:36
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 107 Itatw70s 29-Dec-17 16:26
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 116 Susan Doris 29-Dec-17 17:13
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 111 Eddie Larry 29-Dec-17 17:42
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 138 brett z 29-Dec-17 17:46
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 119 Eddie Larry 29-Dec-17 19:56
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 134 brett z 29-Dec-17 20:05
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 144 Itatw70s 30-Dec-17 00:35
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 121 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 06:37
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 129 greengirl5 30-Dec-17 09:09
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 110 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 13:22
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 123 Aine 30-Dec-17 13:37
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 111 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 14:31
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 179 Aine 30-Dec-17 14:45
Masters of disaster 108 Eddie Larry 30-Dec-17 15:38
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 120 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 16:51
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 118 Aine 30-Dec-17 16:56
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 106 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 18:22
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 113 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 23:09
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 130 brett z 30-Dec-17 23:24
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 125 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 23:38
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 119 Itatw70s 31-Dec-17 19:04
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 112 Aine 31-Dec-17 19:22
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 108 Eddie Larry 31-Dec-17 21:29
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 112 Aine 31-Dec-17 21:51
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 105 Eddie Larry 31-Dec-17 21:58
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 109 Aine 31-Dec-17 22:00
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 112 Itatw70s 31-Dec-17 22:38
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 103 Aine 31-Dec-17 22:55
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 104 Eddie Larry 31-Dec-17 23:10
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 107 Aine 31-Dec-17 23:12
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 119 Itatw70s 01-Jan-18 00:13
conditions far from perfection 113 brett z 01-Jan-18 00:26
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 114 Aine 01-Jan-18 01:19
Fish 95 greengirl5 01-Jan-18 03:22
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 97 greengirl5 01-Jan-18 03:02
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 107 Itatw70s 31-Dec-17 21:54
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 108 Aine 31-Dec-17 22:08
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 98 Eddie Larry 31-Dec-17 23:56
Dog body language 135 greengirl5 01-Jan-18 03:12
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 112 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 00:37
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 113 Aine 01-Jan-18 01:11
choice 150 brett z 30-Dec-17 17:08
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 155 Vanya 30-Dec-17 14:51
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 110 Eddie Larry 30-Dec-17 15:40
Re: There we have it: Plants make decisions! 154 Vanya 30-Dec-17 19:42
Peas and birds' nests 219 greengirl5 29-Dec-17 21:17
co-evolution 139 brett z 29-Dec-17 22:51
Re: co-evolution 121 greengirl5 30-Dec-17 00:07
Re: co-evolution 110 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 06:46
Cosmic intelligence 121 greengirl5 30-Dec-17 08:37
Re: co-evolution 116 Eddie Larry 30-Dec-17 15:45
Re: co-evolution 113 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 16:45
Re: co-evolution 101 Eddie Larry 30-Dec-17 17:16
Re: co-evolution 106 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 18:17
Re: co-evolution 109 Eddie Larry 30-Dec-17 18:28
Re: co-evolution 113 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 18:37
Re: co-evolution 122 Eddie Larry 30-Dec-17 19:58
Thanks, Eddie, for calling me smart! :) 114 greengirl5 30-Dec-17 21:31
Infinite regress versus alpha and omega 109 greengirl5 30-Dec-17 21:26
Re: Infinite regress versus alpha and omega 149 Itatw70s 30-Dec-17 22:37
Re: Infinite regress versus alpha and omega 109 greengirl5 30-Dec-17 22:58
Re: Infinite regress versus alpha and omega 123 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 01:17
Re: Infinite regress versus alpha and omega 211 greengirl5 01-Jan-18 03:33


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