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D-Archer Wrote:
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> Ianw said > "We now know that they are not
> quasi-stellar objects. They have a high redshift
> because they are a very long way away.

>
> How do you reconcile this with the fact that
> intrinsic redshift is observed in the laboratory?
>
> and
> Quasars are connected to parent galaxies by direct
> observation, thus can not be at those great
> distances, how do you wave that evidence away?
>
>
> That was the question(s), i made a weird sentence
> without question mark(s), but the gist should have
> been clear..
>
> Also, again, you said 'we know', this is not a
> scientific statement it is only used by
> believers. Can you agree with me on this?
>
> Regards,
> Daniel


No, you are talking absolute nonsense. Of course quasars are connected to galaxies! They are black holes right in the bloody middle of them! They are not connected to any other galaxies. That is what Arp claimed before we knew they were BHs (AGNs). He looked at the sky. He saw a church tower at 10 km. He looked at the photo, and saw a tree, at 500m, very close to the line of sight of the church tower. He concluded that the church tower had been ejected by the tree! It is debunked nonsense, long since.
And I have no idea about intrinsic redshift in the laboratory. It is irrelevant. We see the 'quasars' (i.e. giant elliptical galaxies) being lensed by the galaxies that Arp claimed had ejected them! They are much further away. Game over. Which is why nobody takes it seriously, except a bunch of mythologist cranks. Short of drawing a picture, I don't know how to make this any plainer.

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Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 1136 D-Archer 08-Jun-19 07:08
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 160 ianw16 08-Jun-19 19:51
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 161 D-Archer 09-Jun-19 09:25
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 186 ianw16 12-Jun-19 15:55
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 151 D-Archer 14-Jun-19 13:03
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 162 ianw16 16-Jun-19 11:46
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 156 D-Archer 17-Jun-19 19:01
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 150 ianw16 17-Jun-19 23:24
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 163 D-Archer 18-Jun-19 13:26
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 154 ianw16 18-Jun-19 17:08
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 147 D-Archer 19-Jun-19 15:49
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 140 ianw16 19-Jun-19 16:45
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 132 D-Archer 19-Jun-19 19:13
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 152 ianw16 21-Jun-19 10:09
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 146 D-Archer 21-Jun-19 14:48
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 134 ianw16 21-Jun-19 17:12
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 129 D-Archer 21-Jun-19 20:38
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 185 ianw16 21-Jun-19 21:02
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 149 D-Archer 23-Jun-19 12:29
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 144 ianw16 23-Jun-19 14:46
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 140 Susan Doris 24-Jun-19 08:39
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 141 D-Archer 24-Jun-19 09:41
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 133 ianw16 24-Jun-19 13:28
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 147 D-Archer 24-Jun-19 18:34
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 147 ianw16 24-Jun-19 19:36
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 151 D-Archer 25-Jun-19 11:29
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 155 ianw16 25-Jun-19 17:52
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 144 D-Archer 26-Jun-19 11:49
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 153 ianw16 26-Jun-19 18:08
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 136 D-Archer 27-Jun-19 10:15
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 253 ianw16 27-Jun-19 15:38
Markarian 205 195 D-Archer 26-Jun-19 15:20
Re: Markarian 205 147 ianw16 26-Jun-19 18:09


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