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D-Archer Wrote:
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> Ianw said > "We now know that they are not
> quasi-stellar objects. They have a high redshift
> because they are a very long way away.

>
> How do you reconcile this with the fact that
> intrinsic redshift is observed in the laboratory?
>
> and
> Quasars are connected to parent galaxies by direct
> observation, thus can not be at those great
> distances, how do you wave that evidence away?
>
>
> That was the question(s), i made a weird sentence
> without question mark(s), but the gist should have
> been clear..
>
> Also, again, you said 'we know', this is not a
> scientific statement it is only used by
> believers. Can you agree with me on this?
>
> Regards,
> Daniel


No, you are talking absolute nonsense. Of course quasars are connected to galaxies! They are black holes right in the bloody middle of them! They are not connected to any other galaxies. That is what Arp claimed before we knew they were BHs (AGNs). He looked at the sky. He saw a church tower at 10 km. He looked at the photo, and saw a tree, at 500m, very close to the line of sight of the church tower. He concluded that the church tower had been ejected by the tree! It is debunked nonsense, long since.
And I have no idea about intrinsic redshift in the laboratory. It is irrelevant. We see the 'quasars' (i.e. giant elliptical galaxies) being lensed by the galaxies that Arp claimed had ejected them! They are much further away. Game over. Which is why nobody takes it seriously, except a bunch of mythologist cranks. Short of drawing a picture, I don't know how to make this any plainer.

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Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 859 D-Archer 08-Jun-19 07:08
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 71 ianw16 08-Jun-19 19:51
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 74 D-Archer 09-Jun-19 09:25
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 79 ianw16 12-Jun-19 15:55
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 60 D-Archer 14-Jun-19 13:03
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 63 ianw16 16-Jun-19 11:46
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 67 D-Archer 17-Jun-19 19:01
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 59 ianw16 17-Jun-19 23:24
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 61 D-Archer 18-Jun-19 13:26
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 60 ianw16 18-Jun-19 17:08
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 62 D-Archer 19-Jun-19 15:49
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 54 ianw16 19-Jun-19 16:45
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 55 D-Archer 19-Jun-19 19:13
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 53 ianw16 21-Jun-19 10:09
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 57 D-Archer 21-Jun-19 14:48
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 52 ianw16 21-Jun-19 17:12
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 52 D-Archer 21-Jun-19 20:38
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 60 ianw16 21-Jun-19 21:02
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 56 D-Archer 23-Jun-19 12:29
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 62 ianw16 23-Jun-19 14:46
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 49 Susan Doris 24-Jun-19 08:39
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 59 D-Archer 24-Jun-19 09:41
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 53 ianw16 24-Jun-19 13:28
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 57 D-Archer 24-Jun-19 18:34
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 52 ianw16 24-Jun-19 19:36
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 56 D-Archer 25-Jun-19 11:29
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 54 ianw16 25-Jun-19 17:52
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 54 D-Archer 26-Jun-19 11:49
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 47 ianw16 26-Jun-19 18:08
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 53 D-Archer 27-Jun-19 10:15
Re: Never forget - Halton Arp - Intrinsic redshift 84 ianw16 27-Jun-19 15:38
Markarian 205 68 D-Archer 26-Jun-19 15:20
Re: Markarian 205 55 ianw16 26-Jun-19 18:09


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