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Ray, surely if two things are changing together, there is a responsibility to ask if one (the human action) is causing the other (grossly disturbed jet stream behaviour)? Please refer to my post of 12th Jan at 19.08 below quoting meteorologist Geoff Masters. We are doing something specific to the jet streams, and as he says, the jet streams are misbehaving in alarming ways. He puts it down to CO2 rising, which of course is a convenient answer because it doesn't alter how we directly use the jet streams.

As members of a supposedly intelligent species those responsible for putting massive numbers of aircraft into the jet streams to speed up travel from left to right surely have the moral responsibility to examine whether this is causing the acknowledged disturbed jet stream behaviour. Instead, no one in a position to answer is saying ANYTHING. Put another way, there is no doubt that jet aircraft are having an equal end opposite effect on the jet streams in which they fly; the only question is how important is it? Will those in a position to answer please do so.
David

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Climate change, jets and jet streams. 1122 drdavidanderson 11-Jan-18 13:12
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Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 129 drrayeye 11-Jan-18 22:13
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 125 drdavidanderson 12-Jan-18 07:03
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 117 drrayeye 13-Jan-18 01:07
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 110 drdavidanderson 13-Jan-18 09:22
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 142 drrayeye 13-Jan-18 10:14
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 103 drdavidanderson 13-Jan-18 18:08
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 109 drrayeye 13-Jan-18 18:32
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 104 drdavidanderson 13-Jan-18 19:54
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 105 drrayeye 13-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 109 drdavidanderson 13-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 96 drrayeye 14-Jan-18 08:18
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 113 drdavidanderson 14-Jan-18 08:36
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 122 Archaic 11-Jan-18 23:48
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 121 drdavidanderson 12-Jan-18 07:11
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 105 Archaic 13-Jan-18 08:31
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 105 Archaic 11-Jan-18 23:45
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 132 carolb 12-Jan-18 01:06
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 120 drdavidanderson 12-Jan-18 18:08
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 103 molder 14-Jan-18 21:45
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 113 drdavidanderson 15-Jan-18 11:41
Re: Climate change, jets and jet streams. 325 molder 16-Jan-18 03:22
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