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OCaptain Wrote:
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> > > > hi bz,
> > > >
> > > > isn't it odd at the certainty "scientists"
> > have
> > > > with this event.
> > > > both the "sound of two black holes
> colliding"
> > > > originally detected
> > > > and now this burst of gamma radiation,
> > > especially
> > > > when "no radiation
> > > > was expected" since nothing can escape a
> > black
> > > > hole.
> > > >
> > > > if it doesn't walk like a duck,
> > > > or talk like a duck
> > > > maybe it's not a duck
> > > > so instead of modifying "how black holes
> > work"
> > > > to fit the new data
> > > > admit something is amiss
> > > >
> > > > they found something, just not "two black
> > holes
> > > > colliding"
> > >
> > >
> > > Like what? Using your duck theory, what best
> > fits
> > > the data?
> >
> > I don't have anything that fits the data
> > the thing is.... neither do they
> > so why not just say "here's something
> interesting
> > let's put it in the unknown column for now"
>
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> Black Holes do best fit the data. The fact that
> the observation revealed something unexpected is a
> confirmation that the science is working. It is
> imperfect, hence they are having to go back and
> revisit some assumptions. It doesn't upend black
> holes existing at all.


In real science
one does not keep "revisiting some assumptions"
for each new discovery
and then say "black holes do best fit the data"

of course they would
when you modify your theory
to fit every new thingy that comes along

every one of the black hole theories
from the beginning until now
have been WRONG
or else they wouldn't have needed to be modified

how many times can a theory be wrong
before someone says "maybe we're going down the wrong road"
and stops and asks for new directions?

theories are suppose to PREDICT discoveries
and not constantly require modifications to the assumptions
making changes to your theory AFTERWARD to make things fit
means you don't know jack about what is really going on. PERIOD

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gravity waves "detected" 1462 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 497 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 390 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 489 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 408 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 440 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 285 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 392 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 441 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 504 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 364 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 403 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 301 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 326 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 312 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 423 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 433 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 359 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 328 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 373 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 294 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 222 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 322 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 434 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 385 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 233 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 321 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 389 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 393 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 347 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 368 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 307 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 436 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 407 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 345 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 348 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 327 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 426 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 384 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 244 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 334 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 448 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 290 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 300 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 279 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 388 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 410 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 301 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 403 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 388 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 410 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 350 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 440 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 413 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 525 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 344 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 380 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 272 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 331 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 425 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 376 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 223 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 533 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 485 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 308 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 419 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 337 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 349 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 263 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 215 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 276 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 334 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 458 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 337 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 419 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 443 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 379 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 478 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 412 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 427 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 394 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 419 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 225 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 440 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 288 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 341 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
how many times can you change the rules and still get a black hole 324 laughin 08-Jun-16 14:00
LIGO press conf, June 15 351 brett z 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 353 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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