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OCaptain Wrote:
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> > > > hi bz,
> > > >
> > > > isn't it odd at the certainty "scientists"
> > have
> > > > with this event.
> > > > both the "sound of two black holes
> colliding"
> > > > originally detected
> > > > and now this burst of gamma radiation,
> > > especially
> > > > when "no radiation
> > > > was expected" since nothing can escape a
> > black
> > > > hole.
> > > >
> > > > if it doesn't walk like a duck,
> > > > or talk like a duck
> > > > maybe it's not a duck
> > > > so instead of modifying "how black holes
> > work"
> > > > to fit the new data
> > > > admit something is amiss
> > > >
> > > > they found something, just not "two black
> > holes
> > > > colliding"
> > >
> > >
> > > Like what? Using your duck theory, what best
> > fits
> > > the data?
> >
> > I don't have anything that fits the data
> > the thing is.... neither do they
> > so why not just say "here's something
> interesting
> > let's put it in the unknown column for now"
>
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> Black Holes do best fit the data. The fact that
> the observation revealed something unexpected is a
> confirmation that the science is working. It is
> imperfect, hence they are having to go back and
> revisit some assumptions. It doesn't upend black
> holes existing at all.


In real science
one does not keep "revisiting some assumptions"
for each new discovery
and then say "black holes do best fit the data"

of course they would
when you modify your theory
to fit every new thingy that comes along

every one of the black hole theories
from the beginning until now
have been WRONG
or else they wouldn't have needed to be modified

how many times can a theory be wrong
before someone says "maybe we're going down the wrong road"
and stops and asks for new directions?

theories are suppose to PREDICT discoveries
and not constantly require modifications to the assumptions
making changes to your theory AFTERWARD to make things fit
means you don't know jack about what is really going on. PERIOD

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gravity waves "detected" 1436 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 477 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 373 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 453 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 375 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 415 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 265 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 372 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 425 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 460 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 348 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 383 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 286 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 313 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 295 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 405 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 410 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 329 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 312 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 352 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 280 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 207 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 303 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 416 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 355 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 220 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 300 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 366 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 378 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 328 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 351 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 290 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 408 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 387 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 327 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 332 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 310 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 411 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 365 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 225 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 312 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 416 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 274 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 282 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 263 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 350 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 389 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 265 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 384 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 367 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 393 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 331 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 417 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 393 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 508 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 327 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 364 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 254 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 311 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 406 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 357 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 204 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 502 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 450 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 293 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 387 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 319 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 332 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 247 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 187 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 263 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 306 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 442 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 317 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 400 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 423 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 357 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 460 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 396 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 411 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 369 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 403 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 194 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 423 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 254 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 324 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
how many times can you change the rules and still get a black hole 307 laughin 08-Jun-16 14:00
LIGO press conf, June 15 332 brett z 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 336 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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