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OCaptain Wrote:
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> > > > hi bz,
> > > >
> > > > isn't it odd at the certainty "scientists"
> > have
> > > > with this event.
> > > > both the "sound of two black holes
> colliding"
> > > > originally detected
> > > > and now this burst of gamma radiation,
> > > especially
> > > > when "no radiation
> > > > was expected" since nothing can escape a
> > black
> > > > hole.
> > > >
> > > > if it doesn't walk like a duck,
> > > > or talk like a duck
> > > > maybe it's not a duck
> > > > so instead of modifying "how black holes
> > work"
> > > > to fit the new data
> > > > admit something is amiss
> > > >
> > > > they found something, just not "two black
> > holes
> > > > colliding"
> > >
> > >
> > > Like what? Using your duck theory, what best
> > fits
> > > the data?
> >
> > I don't have anything that fits the data
> > the thing is.... neither do they
> > so why not just say "here's something
> interesting
> > let's put it in the unknown column for now"
>
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> Black Holes do best fit the data. The fact that
> the observation revealed something unexpected is a
> confirmation that the science is working. It is
> imperfect, hence they are having to go back and
> revisit some assumptions. It doesn't upend black
> holes existing at all.


In real science
one does not keep "revisiting some assumptions"
for each new discovery
and then say "black holes do best fit the data"

of course they would
when you modify your theory
to fit every new thingy that comes along

every one of the black hole theories
from the beginning until now
have been WRONG
or else they wouldn't have needed to be modified

how many times can a theory be wrong
before someone says "maybe we're going down the wrong road"
and stops and asks for new directions?

theories are suppose to PREDICT discoveries
and not constantly require modifications to the assumptions
making changes to your theory AFTERWARD to make things fit
means you don't know jack about what is really going on. PERIOD

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gravity waves "detected" 1475 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 506 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 397 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 495 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 414 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 455 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 296 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 405 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 450 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 513 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 370 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 412 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 306 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 333 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 318 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 427 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 438 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 364 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 334 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 380 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 300 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 228 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 328 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 441 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 390 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 240 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 334 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 399 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 403 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 359 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 377 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 319 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 449 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 422 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 351 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 355 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 333 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 431 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 389 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 252 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 340 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 461 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 294 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 309 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 289 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 399 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 417 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 309 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 414 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 398 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 416 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 364 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 448 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 429 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 529 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 351 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 386 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 277 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 339 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 437 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 386 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 229 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 542 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 491 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 315 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 424 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 355 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 359 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 270 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 222 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 287 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 340 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 465 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 348 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 439 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 453 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 389 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 484 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 421 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 432 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 408 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 426 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 231 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 446 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 294 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 346 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
how many times can you change the rules and still get a black hole 330 laughin 08-Jun-16 14:00
LIGO press conf, June 15 359 brett z 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 357 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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