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OCaptain Wrote:
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> > > > hi bz,
> > > >
> > > > isn't it odd at the certainty "scientists"
> > have
> > > > with this event.
> > > > both the "sound of two black holes
> colliding"
> > > > originally detected
> > > > and now this burst of gamma radiation,
> > > especially
> > > > when "no radiation
> > > > was expected" since nothing can escape a
> > black
> > > > hole.
> > > >
> > > > if it doesn't walk like a duck,
> > > > or talk like a duck
> > > > maybe it's not a duck
> > > > so instead of modifying "how black holes
> > work"
> > > > to fit the new data
> > > > admit something is amiss
> > > >
> > > > they found something, just not "two black
> > holes
> > > > colliding"
> > >
> > >
> > > Like what? Using your duck theory, what best
> > fits
> > > the data?
> >
> > I don't have anything that fits the data
> > the thing is.... neither do they
> > so why not just say "here's something
> interesting
> > let's put it in the unknown column for now"
>
>
> Black Holes do best fit the data. The fact that
> the observation revealed something unexpected is a
> confirmation that the science is working. It is
> imperfect, hence they are having to go back and
> revisit some assumptions. It doesn't upend black
> holes existing at all.


In real science
one does not keep "revisiting some assumptions"
for each new discovery
and then say "black holes do best fit the data"

of course they would
when you modify your theory
to fit every new thingy that comes along

every one of the black hole theories
from the beginning until now
have been WRONG
or else they wouldn't have needed to be modified

how many times can a theory be wrong
before someone says "maybe we're going down the wrong road"
and stops and asks for new directions?

theories are suppose to PREDICT discoveries
and not constantly require modifications to the assumptions
making changes to your theory AFTERWARD to make things fit
means you don't know jack about what is really going on. PERIOD

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gravity waves "detected" 1453 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 488 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 382 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 478 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 398 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 426 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 280 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 383 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 434 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 489 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 357 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 395 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 295 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 319 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 305 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 414 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 424 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 350 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 321 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 365 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 287 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 215 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 314 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 425 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 378 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 228 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 313 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 378 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 385 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 338 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 359 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 300 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 424 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 401 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 337 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 342 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 318 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 419 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 377 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 236 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 323 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 436 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 281 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 291 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 271 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 375 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 402 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 291 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 393 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 377 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 403 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 341 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 427 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 402 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 518 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 338 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 373 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 263 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 323 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 415 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 367 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 214 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 525 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 468 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 302 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 410 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 329 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 342 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 256 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 208 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 270 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 326 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 451 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 329 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 410 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 431 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 368 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 469 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 405 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 420 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 380 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 413 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 216 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 433 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 279 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 334 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
how many times can you change the rules and still get a black hole 316 laughin 08-Jun-16 14:00
LIGO press conf, June 15 344 brett z 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 345 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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