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OCaptain Wrote:
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> > > > hi bz,
> > > >
> > > > isn't it odd at the certainty "scientists"
> > have
> > > > with this event.
> > > > both the "sound of two black holes
> colliding"
> > > > originally detected
> > > > and now this burst of gamma radiation,
> > > especially
> > > > when "no radiation
> > > > was expected" since nothing can escape a
> > black
> > > > hole.
> > > >
> > > > if it doesn't walk like a duck,
> > > > or talk like a duck
> > > > maybe it's not a duck
> > > > so instead of modifying "how black holes
> > work"
> > > > to fit the new data
> > > > admit something is amiss
> > > >
> > > > they found something, just not "two black
> > holes
> > > > colliding"
> > >
> > >
> > > Like what? Using your duck theory, what best
> > fits
> > > the data?
> >
> > I don't have anything that fits the data
> > the thing is.... neither do they
> > so why not just say "here's something
> interesting
> > let's put it in the unknown column for now"
>
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> Black Holes do best fit the data. The fact that
> the observation revealed something unexpected is a
> confirmation that the science is working. It is
> imperfect, hence they are having to go back and
> revisit some assumptions. It doesn't upend black
> holes existing at all.


In real science
one does not keep "revisiting some assumptions"
for each new discovery
and then say "black holes do best fit the data"

of course they would
when you modify your theory
to fit every new thingy that comes along

every one of the black hole theories
from the beginning until now
have been WRONG
or else they wouldn't have needed to be modified

how many times can a theory be wrong
before someone says "maybe we're going down the wrong road"
and stops and asks for new directions?

theories are suppose to PREDICT discoveries
and not constantly require modifications to the assumptions
making changes to your theory AFTERWARD to make things fit
means you don't know jack about what is really going on. PERIOD

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gravity waves "detected" 1433 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 476 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 372 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 453 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 372 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 412 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 263 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 371 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 423 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 454 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 346 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 383 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 285 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 311 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 294 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 403 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 405 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 327 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 312 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 351 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 279 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 206 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 301 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 416 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 353 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 219 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 297 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 363 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 374 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 326 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 348 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 289 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 405 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 386 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 325 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 331 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 309 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 410 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 364 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 225 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 311 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 407 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 273 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 279 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 260 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 349 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 385 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 263 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 382 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 365 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 393 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 325 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 413 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 389 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 507 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 327 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 363 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 254 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 308 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 402 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 355 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 204 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 500 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 448 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 291 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 387 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 315 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 331 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 246 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 187 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 262 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 303 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 438 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 315 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 395 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 420 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 357 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 458 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 393 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 406 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 367 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 403 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 194 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 422 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 253 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 324 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
how many times can you change the rules and still get a black hole 306 laughin 08-Jun-16 14:00
LIGO press conf, June 15 331 brett z 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 334 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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