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Sirius7237 Wrote:
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> laughin Wrote:
>
> > So gravity isn't "radiation", i.e.,
> > electromagnetic
> > and as such, doesn't have to obey the FTL speed
> > limit
>
> I saw this this morning and was going to post but
> you beat me to it. I knew you would be "skeptical"
> lol.
>
> Radiation probably not the correct way to look at
> it. Gravity is not transmitted through
> electromagnetic radiation. We have never been able
> to observe theoretical bosons called gravitons
> though. If they do exist, there is no experimental
> evidence to suggest that they propagate faster
> than C that I am aware of. An interesting question
> is how does such a particle if it does exist
> interact with the architecture of space and how is
> it generated from the interaction with the fields
> that impart mass?

But some kind radiation has, in the past, been what they tried to make gravity to be
all part of the "unification of the forces) process

whatever it is, HAS to travel faster than light, because the effect of gravity does
[grahamhancock.com]

So they are saying that space is rippling, not that some particle is traveling THRU space FTL
also, remember, space isn't made of particles (so get any ideas of aether out of your head right now)
If a ripple of "space" (chuckle) can travel faster than light can travel through it
then GR isn't violated,
the effect can be as fast as needed
and if no particles are exchanged
no bosons or gravitons needed
(bosons!, we don't need no stinking bosons)
which explains why they haven't been found!!!!

Hey, I'm just trying to interpret their "findings" before the Nobel
(it looks better to have the story straight beforehand)


now the big question...?
what's shakin'? (an old hippy expression :) )
what (and how) is grabbing ahold of space and shaking it?
especially since there is nothing to grab ahold of.....

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gravity waves "detected" 1436 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 478 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 373 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 453 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 376 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 415 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 265 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 372 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 425 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 461 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 348 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 383 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 286 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 313 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 295 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 405 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 410 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 330 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 312 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 352 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 280 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 208 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 304 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 416 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 355 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 221 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 301 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 367 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 378 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 328 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 351 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 291 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 408 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 389 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 327 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 332 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 310 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 412 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 365 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 225 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 313 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 416 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 274 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 282 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 263 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 350 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 390 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 266 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 384 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 368 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 394 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 331 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 417 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 393 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 509 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 327 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 365 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 254 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 312 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 406 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 357 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 204 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 503 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 451 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 293 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 387 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 319 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 332 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 247 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 187 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 263 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 307 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 442 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 317 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 400 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 423 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 358 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 460 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 396 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 411 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 370 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 403 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 194 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 423 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 256 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 324 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
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LIGO press conf, June 15 332 brett z 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 338 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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