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Sirius7237 Wrote:
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> laughin Wrote:
>
> > So gravity isn't "radiation", i.e.,
> > electromagnetic
> > and as such, doesn't have to obey the FTL speed
> > limit
>
> I saw this this morning and was going to post but
> you beat me to it. I knew you would be "skeptical"
> lol.
>
> Radiation probably not the correct way to look at
> it. Gravity is not transmitted through
> electromagnetic radiation. We have never been able
> to observe theoretical bosons called gravitons
> though. If they do exist, there is no experimental
> evidence to suggest that they propagate faster
> than C that I am aware of. An interesting question
> is how does such a particle if it does exist
> interact with the architecture of space and how is
> it generated from the interaction with the fields
> that impart mass?

But some kind radiation has, in the past, been what they tried to make gravity to be
all part of the "unification of the forces) process

whatever it is, HAS to travel faster than light, because the effect of gravity does
[grahamhancock.com]

So they are saying that space is rippling, not that some particle is traveling THRU space FTL
also, remember, space isn't made of particles (so get any ideas of aether out of your head right now)
If a ripple of "space" (chuckle) can travel faster than light can travel through it
then GR isn't violated,
the effect can be as fast as needed
and if no particles are exchanged
no bosons or gravitons needed
(bosons!, we don't need no stinking bosons)
which explains why they haven't been found!!!!

Hey, I'm just trying to interpret their "findings" before the Nobel
(it looks better to have the story straight beforehand)


now the big question...?
what's shakin'? (an old hippy expression :) )
what (and how) is grabbing ahold of space and shaking it?
especially since there is nothing to grab ahold of.....

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gravity waves "detected" 1509 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 534 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 425 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 526 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 443 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 483 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 330 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 434 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 480 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 538 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 398 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 438 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 332 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 348 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 346 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 447 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 457 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 384 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 362 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 402 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 316 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 252 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 347 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 469 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 409 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 266 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 355 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 417 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 428 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 381 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 399 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 333 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 468 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 454 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 380 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 379 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 367 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 447 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 416 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 286 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 361 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 500 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 321 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 335 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 309 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 433 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 437 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 335 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 442 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 429 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 436 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 386 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 470 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 462 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 547 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 369 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 411 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 299 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 377 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 466 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 409 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 256 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 569 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 514 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 339 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 443 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 378 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 388 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 298 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 244 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 321 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 366 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 482 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 381 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 471 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 480 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 412 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 520 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 454 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 447 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 435 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 441 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 258 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 467 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 313 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 367 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
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LIGO press conf, June 15 400 brett z 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 385 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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