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Sirius7237 Wrote:
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> laughin Wrote:
>
> > So gravity isn't "radiation", i.e.,
> > electromagnetic
> > and as such, doesn't have to obey the FTL speed
> > limit
>
> I saw this this morning and was going to post but
> you beat me to it. I knew you would be "skeptical"
> lol.
>
> Radiation probably not the correct way to look at
> it. Gravity is not transmitted through
> electromagnetic radiation. We have never been able
> to observe theoretical bosons called gravitons
> though. If they do exist, there is no experimental
> evidence to suggest that they propagate faster
> than C that I am aware of. An interesting question
> is how does such a particle if it does exist
> interact with the architecture of space and how is
> it generated from the interaction with the fields
> that impart mass?

But some kind radiation has, in the past, been what they tried to make gravity to be
all part of the "unification of the forces) process

whatever it is, HAS to travel faster than light, because the effect of gravity does
[grahamhancock.com]

So they are saying that space is rippling, not that some particle is traveling THRU space FTL
also, remember, space isn't made of particles (so get any ideas of aether out of your head right now)
If a ripple of "space" (chuckle) can travel faster than light can travel through it
then GR isn't violated,
the effect can be as fast as needed
and if no particles are exchanged
no bosons or gravitons needed
(bosons!, we don't need no stinking bosons)
which explains why they haven't been found!!!!

Hey, I'm just trying to interpret their "findings" before the Nobel
(it looks better to have the story straight beforehand)


now the big question...?
what's shakin'? (an old hippy expression :) )
what (and how) is grabbing ahold of space and shaking it?
especially since there is nothing to grab ahold of.....

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gravity waves "detected" 1433 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 475 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 372 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 452 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 370 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 412 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 263 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 369 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 423 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 453 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 345 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 383 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 285 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 311 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 294 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 403 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 404 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 326 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 312 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 351 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 278 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 205 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 301 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 414 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 352 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 219 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 297 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 362 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 374 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 326 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 348 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 288 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 404 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 385 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 324 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 331 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 308 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 409 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 364 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 225 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 310 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 407 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 273 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 278 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 260 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 348 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 385 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 262 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 382 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 363 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 393 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 324 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 413 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 389 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 506 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 327 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 363 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 254 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 307 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 402 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 355 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 203 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 499 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 447 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 290 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 387 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 315 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 331 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 246 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 186 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 261 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 303 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 437 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 315 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 394 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 420 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 357 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 457 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 393 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 404 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 367 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 403 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 193 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 422 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 253 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 323 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
how many times can you change the rules and still get a black hole 306 laughin 08-Jun-16 14:00
LIGO press conf, June 15 331 brett z 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 334 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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