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And as for what I believe about science, I’ve stated on numerous occasions on these boards that science cannot answer questions that don’t fall into the realm of science. How much more explicit can that be?

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carolb
Here are a few examples I can find after a quick search. In these posts I’ve made it clear that science cannot deal with such subjects as
the afterlife, non-measurables or philosophical issues .

If such examples, showing an awareness of what science cannot, and should not, be required to deal with, make me a proponent of ‘scientism’, then I don’t know how to express myself in a manner that’s simple enough for you to understand that I’m not.

This leads me back to the subject of the sub-thread - that ESA scientists were surprised and initially disbelieving of the results coming from Rosetta. I’d like to know why you think that my pointing out to Starbinder the obvious fact that these scientists, facing such unexpected results, now have to clear the slate and re-think what they thought they knew about comets - in order to advance scientific knowledge of comets – makes me a scientismist, or whatever the silly noun is.


I personally do not believe you are guilty of "scientism", ie, the belief that science can do no wrong

but you do suffer from scientific "cognitive dissonance"
[en.wikipedia.org]

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Belief disconfirmation paradigm[edit]
Dissonance is felt when people are confronted with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. If the dissonance is not reduced by changing one's belief, the dissonance can result in restoring consonance through misperception, rejection or refutation of the information, seeking support from others who share the beliefs, and attempting to persuade others.[3]


when confronted with the same information (on the ESA video)about
the ESA being surprised about the findings and the need to rethink things....
over several threads over several months
you denied the head of the ESA said what he said
you told everyone who objected they were the ones hearing things incorrectly
and appealed to higher authority (jonny) for help

as somebody said upthread

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carolb
This process is only baffling to pseudo-scientists who cling rigidly to dogmatic theories, and refuse to budge when challenged.
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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 2037 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 482 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 460 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 333 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 323 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 369 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 367 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 297 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 331 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 343 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 346 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 280 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 353 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 304 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 287 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 278 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 287 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 274 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 378 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 417 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 282 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 250 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 360 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 327 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 339 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 368 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 339 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 247 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 256 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 262 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 299 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 244 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 351 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 274 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 309 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 407 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 292 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 274 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 318 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 372 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 286 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 279 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 270 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 261 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 256 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 293 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 390 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 353 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 521 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 264 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 285 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 375 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 386 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 364 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 251 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 246 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 390 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 266 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 246 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 236 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 218 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 314 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 810 skakos 04-Nov-15 22:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 370 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 352 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 344 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 266 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 223 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 426 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 383 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 442 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 376 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 384 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 328 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 407 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 553 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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