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And as for what I believe about science, I’ve stated on numerous occasions on these boards that science cannot answer questions that don’t fall into the realm of science. How much more explicit can that be?

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carolb
Here are a few examples I can find after a quick search. In these posts I’ve made it clear that science cannot deal with such subjects as
the afterlife, non-measurables or philosophical issues .

If such examples, showing an awareness of what science cannot, and should not, be required to deal with, make me a proponent of ‘scientism’, then I don’t know how to express myself in a manner that’s simple enough for you to understand that I’m not.

This leads me back to the subject of the sub-thread - that ESA scientists were surprised and initially disbelieving of the results coming from Rosetta. I’d like to know why you think that my pointing out to Starbinder the obvious fact that these scientists, facing such unexpected results, now have to clear the slate and re-think what they thought they knew about comets - in order to advance scientific knowledge of comets – makes me a scientismist, or whatever the silly noun is.


I personally do not believe you are guilty of "scientism", ie, the belief that science can do no wrong

but you do suffer from scientific "cognitive dissonance"
[en.wikipedia.org]

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Belief disconfirmation paradigm[edit]
Dissonance is felt when people are confronted with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. If the dissonance is not reduced by changing one's belief, the dissonance can result in restoring consonance through misperception, rejection or refutation of the information, seeking support from others who share the beliefs, and attempting to persuade others.[3]


when confronted with the same information (on the ESA video)about
the ESA being surprised about the findings and the need to rethink things....
over several threads over several months
you denied the head of the ESA said what he said
you told everyone who objected they were the ones hearing things incorrectly
and appealed to higher authority (jonny) for help

as somebody said upthread

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carolb
This process is only baffling to pseudo-scientists who cling rigidly to dogmatic theories, and refuse to budge when challenged.
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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1855 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 417 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 297 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 403 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 262 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 331 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 324 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 250 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 280 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 244 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 256 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 250 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 328 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 344 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 282 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 244 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 296 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 182 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 327 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 184 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 189 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 204 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 182 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 160 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 296 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 256 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 221 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 355 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 221 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 225 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 251 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 309 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 241 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 232 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 227 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 208 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 197 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 246 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 349 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 444 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 226 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 231 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 324 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 332 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 181 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 299 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 163 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 278 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 170 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 170 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 183 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 204 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 196 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 182 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 660 skakos 04-Nov-15 22:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 324 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 302 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 213 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 168 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 377 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 325 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 393 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 321 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 343 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 366 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 506 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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