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And as for what I believe about science, I’ve stated on numerous occasions on these boards that science cannot answer questions that don’t fall into the realm of science. How much more explicit can that be?

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carolb
Here are a few examples I can find after a quick search. In these posts I’ve made it clear that science cannot deal with such subjects as
the afterlife, non-measurables or philosophical issues .

If such examples, showing an awareness of what science cannot, and should not, be required to deal with, make me a proponent of ‘scientism’, then I don’t know how to express myself in a manner that’s simple enough for you to understand that I’m not.

This leads me back to the subject of the sub-thread - that ESA scientists were surprised and initially disbelieving of the results coming from Rosetta. I’d like to know why you think that my pointing out to Starbinder the obvious fact that these scientists, facing such unexpected results, now have to clear the slate and re-think what they thought they knew about comets - in order to advance scientific knowledge of comets – makes me a scientismist, or whatever the silly noun is.


I personally do not believe you are guilty of "scientism", ie, the belief that science can do no wrong

but you do suffer from scientific "cognitive dissonance"
[en.wikipedia.org]

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Belief disconfirmation paradigm[edit]
Dissonance is felt when people are confronted with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. If the dissonance is not reduced by changing one's belief, the dissonance can result in restoring consonance through misperception, rejection or refutation of the information, seeking support from others who share the beliefs, and attempting to persuade others.[3]


when confronted with the same information (on the ESA video)about
the ESA being surprised about the findings and the need to rethink things....
over several threads over several months
you denied the head of the ESA said what he said
you told everyone who objected they were the ones hearing things incorrectly
and appealed to higher authority (jonny) for help

as somebody said upthread

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carolb
This process is only baffling to pseudo-scientists who cling rigidly to dogmatic theories, and refuse to budge when challenged.
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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1923 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 429 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 301 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 415 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 337 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 331 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 274 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 256 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 221 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 299 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 236 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 246 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 355 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 321 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 290 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 250 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 302 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 221 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 333 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 300 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 274 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 210 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 166 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 178 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 244 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 360 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 228 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 231 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 266 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 317 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 248 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 244 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 238 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 216 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 207 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 250 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 353 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 321 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 464 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 232 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 239 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 331 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 340 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 169 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 354 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 177 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 210 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 202 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 187 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 708 skakos 04-Nov-15 22:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 308 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 299 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 216 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 174 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 390 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 304 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 401 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 330 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 350 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 294 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 374 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 513 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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