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carolb Wrote:
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> Starbinder Wrote:
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> > Here you go Carol and anyone else interested.
> JP
> > Bibring states (in June 2015) that there is no
> > surface ice anywhere to be found on the comet,
> > even in the cracks where they've looked deep
> (I'm
> > assuming that's with the OSIRIS images that
> they
> > aren't showing us). He also says that the comet
> > models that have been written about for
> decades,
> > which he says he had done many times, are wrong
> > and that the model of the comet being 80% ice
> is
> > wrong. He goes on to say that ice is not the
> > binding force it is likely the grains they see
> on
> > the surface.
> >
> > 1:06:00 to 1:09:00
> >
> >
> [www.esa.int]
>
> > play_of_Rosetta_conference
>
>
> Please see Jonny's post here, from last June,
> regarding that very issue:
>
> [url=http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?3,72
> 1236,724503#msg-724503]Jonny's post[/url]
>
> Carol


The Rosetta teams seem to have had big surprises in September 2014 and again in August 2015. Surprises so big that they've admitted now that they were "in denial" with respect to September for the time being. The August data has yet to be reported or even commented on.

The following quote is from the ESA Rosetta Blog concerning abundant oxygen (September 2014 data) and jet outbursts (July/August 2015 data).

"Quite apart from the devastation effect which this finding of abundant molecular oxygen above the surface of the 67P nucleus is having on the current paradigm not only of how comets, but also the solar system itself formed, I consider the most revealing aspect of this finding to be its implications for how mainstream science is conducted. As Kathrin Altwegg admitted, the team was “in denial” for many long months, so utterly impossible did the finding appear and so totally inconsistent was it with everything that the “consensus” opinion believed about the composition of comet nuclei. As André Bieler admitted, “As soon as we got close enough to the comet, we actually found it right away” . That was way back in September 2014, some fourteen months before the finding was finally disclosed."

"Now as I (and others) have already pointed out on several occasions in other threads, there has so far also been a curious absence of data disclosed on the temperature and plasma characteristics of the “jets” (in particular the spectacular outbursts observed during the July 29, August 12 and August 22 events). The only comment made in the blog-post on the “extraordinarily bright” August 22 event was that that the team was “busy analyzing the data to understand the nature of these events”, meaning that the collected data was (and probably still is) literally incomprehensible for them. When the extremely high temperature and the extremely active plasma data are at last published (probably several more months in the future), it will be seen that in that respect too, the team was “in denial”. It may take a very long time, but we will ultimately be told the truth about the real nature of 67P."



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06-Nov-15 14:55 by Starbinder.

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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 180 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 221 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 180 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 161 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
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"Blue sky thinking" 219 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
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SUMMARY? 216 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
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