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carolb Wrote:
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> Starbinder Wrote:
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> > Here you go Carol and anyone else interested.
> JP
> > Bibring states (in June 2015) that there is no
> > surface ice anywhere to be found on the comet,
> > even in the cracks where they've looked deep
> (I'm
> > assuming that's with the OSIRIS images that
> they
> > aren't showing us). He also says that the comet
> > models that have been written about for
> decades,
> > which he says he had done many times, are wrong
> > and that the model of the comet being 80% ice
> is
> > wrong. He goes on to say that ice is not the
> > binding force it is likely the grains they see
> on
> > the surface.
> >
> > 1:06:00 to 1:09:00
> >
> >
> [www.esa.int]
>
> > play_of_Rosetta_conference
>
>
> Please see Jonny's post here, from last June,
> regarding that very issue:
>
> [url=http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?3,72
> 1236,724503#msg-724503]Jonny's post[/url]
>
> Carol


The Rosetta teams seem to have had big surprises in September 2014 and again in August 2015. Surprises so big that they've admitted now that they were "in denial" with respect to September for the time being. The August data has yet to be reported or even commented on.

The following quote is from the ESA Rosetta Blog concerning abundant oxygen (September 2014 data) and jet outbursts (July/August 2015 data).

"Quite apart from the devastation effect which this finding of abundant molecular oxygen above the surface of the 67P nucleus is having on the current paradigm not only of how comets, but also the solar system itself formed, I consider the most revealing aspect of this finding to be its implications for how mainstream science is conducted. As Kathrin Altwegg admitted, the team was “in denial” for many long months, so utterly impossible did the finding appear and so totally inconsistent was it with everything that the “consensus” opinion believed about the composition of comet nuclei. As André Bieler admitted, “As soon as we got close enough to the comet, we actually found it right away” . That was way back in September 2014, some fourteen months before the finding was finally disclosed."

"Now as I (and others) have already pointed out on several occasions in other threads, there has so far also been a curious absence of data disclosed on the temperature and plasma characteristics of the “jets” (in particular the spectacular outbursts observed during the July 29, August 12 and August 22 events). The only comment made in the blog-post on the “extraordinarily bright” August 22 event was that that the team was “busy analyzing the data to understand the nature of these events”, meaning that the collected data was (and probably still is) literally incomprehensible for them. When the extremely high temperature and the extremely active plasma data are at last published (probably several more months in the future), it will be seen that in that respect too, the team was “in denial”. It may take a very long time, but we will ultimately be told the truth about the real nature of 67P."



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06-Nov-15 14:55 by Starbinder.

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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 399 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 331 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 324 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 280 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 246 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 204 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 182 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 160 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 296 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 221 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 355 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 219 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
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Re: What about scientism? 250 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
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"Blue sky thinking" 231 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 227 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 349 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 310 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 443 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 226 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
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Re: SUMMARY? 324 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 332 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 181 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 297 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 163 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 169 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 337 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 170 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 182 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 204 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
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Re: off topic... 182 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
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Re: Cosmic Disconnect 168 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 323 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 392 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 343 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
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