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laughin posted links to complaints raised against Velikovsky's Venus scenario by Carl Sagan - far too many to address effectively here without essentially rewriting my book.

As an example, Sagan noted that any event capable of ejecting Venus from Jupiter would have vaporized large portions of Jupiter, which should remain intensely hot even today.

One mystery relating to Jupiter is why its core measures half the size and twice the temperature as is predicted by prevailing theory. A 2010 study from researchers at Peking University concluded that a body ten times the size of the Earth collided with Jupiter, then sank to its core and vaporized it (see link to study below.)

The giant Red Spot storm on Jupiter reaches down to its core and up to the top of the Jovian atmosphere, and is thought to shuttle material upward through the atmosphere. Perhaps a product of that impact, it could quite conceivably have been the conduit of material ejected by the collision.

Sagan said that any astronomic process that creates a large body also creates many smaller bodies. My outlook is that the same process could quite reasonably have intermixed the varied materials documented to constitute some comets.

By comparison to ancient myths cited by Velikovsky, the god Zeus learned through prophecy that a goddess named Metis would give birth to a god even greater than him. To prevent that, he swallowed Metis, and Pallas Athene (Venus) sprung from his head.

As another example, Sagan remarks about the unlikelihood of an event occuring with just the right energy to have ejected Venus into orbit without also ejecting it out of the solar system. The first problem with Sagan's outlook is that he should know there is no validity to applying calculations of probability retrospectively. If there were, we could easily make the argument based on probabilities that the universe itself shouldn't exist.

- Laird


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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1894 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 428 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 300 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 411 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 328 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 272 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 256 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 262 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 302 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 236 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 314 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 244 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 351 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 236 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 320 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 287 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 300 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 333 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 299 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 193 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 251 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 210 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 165 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 302 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 359 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 227 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 230 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 262 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 316 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 247 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 242 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 234 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 215 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 206 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 250 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 352 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 320 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 460 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 231 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 237 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 331 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 339 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 169 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 353 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 189 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 210 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 201 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 185 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 215 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 173 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 387 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 331 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 400 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 327 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 349 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 371 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 510 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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