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laughin posted links to complaints raised against Velikovsky's Venus scenario by Carl Sagan - far too many to address effectively here without essentially rewriting my book.

As an example, Sagan noted that any event capable of ejecting Venus from Jupiter would have vaporized large portions of Jupiter, which should remain intensely hot even today.

One mystery relating to Jupiter is why its core measures half the size and twice the temperature as is predicted by prevailing theory. A 2010 study from researchers at Peking University concluded that a body ten times the size of the Earth collided with Jupiter, then sank to its core and vaporized it (see link to study below.)

The giant Red Spot storm on Jupiter reaches down to its core and up to the top of the Jovian atmosphere, and is thought to shuttle material upward through the atmosphere. Perhaps a product of that impact, it could quite conceivably have been the conduit of material ejected by the collision.

Sagan said that any astronomic process that creates a large body also creates many smaller bodies. My outlook is that the same process could quite reasonably have intermixed the varied materials documented to constitute some comets.

By comparison to ancient myths cited by Velikovsky, the god Zeus learned through prophecy that a goddess named Metis would give birth to a god even greater than him. To prevent that, he swallowed Metis, and Pallas Athene (Venus) sprung from his head.

As another example, Sagan remarks about the unlikelihood of an event occuring with just the right energy to have ejected Venus into orbit without also ejecting it out of the solar system. The first problem with Sagan's outlook is that he should know there is no validity to applying calculations of probability retrospectively. If there were, we could easily make the argument based on probabilities that the universe itself shouldn't exist.

- Laird


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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 2038 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 482 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 461 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 323 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 369 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 367 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 332 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 344 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 274 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 346 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 282 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 354 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 304 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 287 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 279 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 287 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 274 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 379 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 417 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 251 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 327 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 339 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 248 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 300 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 262 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 351 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 310 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 407 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 292 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 275 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 318 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 372 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 286 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 279 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 270 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 261 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 256 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 294 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 390 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 353 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 522 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 264 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 285 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 375 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 386 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 365 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 246 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 391 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 247 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 236 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 218 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 314 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 370 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 352 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 344 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 267 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 223 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 426 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 383 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 443 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 377 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 385 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 328 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 407 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 553 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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