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laughin posted links to complaints raised against Velikovsky's Venus scenario by Carl Sagan - far too many to address effectively here without essentially rewriting my book.

As an example, Sagan noted that any event capable of ejecting Venus from Jupiter would have vaporized large portions of Jupiter, which should remain intensely hot even today.

One mystery relating to Jupiter is why its core measures half the size and twice the temperature as is predicted by prevailing theory. A 2010 study from researchers at Peking University concluded that a body ten times the size of the Earth collided with Jupiter, then sank to its core and vaporized it (see link to study below.)

The giant Red Spot storm on Jupiter reaches down to its core and up to the top of the Jovian atmosphere, and is thought to shuttle material upward through the atmosphere. Perhaps a product of that impact, it could quite conceivably have been the conduit of material ejected by the collision.

Sagan said that any astronomic process that creates a large body also creates many smaller bodies. My outlook is that the same process could quite reasonably have intermixed the varied materials documented to constitute some comets.

By comparison to ancient myths cited by Velikovsky, the god Zeus learned through prophecy that a goddess named Metis would give birth to a god even greater than him. To prevent that, he swallowed Metis, and Pallas Athene (Venus) sprung from his head.

As another example, Sagan remarks about the unlikelihood of an event occuring with just the right energy to have ejected Venus into orbit without also ejecting it out of the solar system. The first problem with Sagan's outlook is that he should know there is no validity to applying calculations of probability retrospectively. If there were, we could easily make the argument based on probabilities that the universe itself shouldn't exist.

- Laird


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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1770 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 399 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 279 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 378 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 278 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 282 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 304 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 324 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 295 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 182 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 173 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 181 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 174 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 164 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 304 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 165 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 183 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 181 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 186 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 174 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 262 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 165 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 185 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 189 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 145 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 180 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 193 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 174 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 157 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 183 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 209 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 223 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 291 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 221 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 212 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 211 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 189 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 181 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 229 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 325 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 421 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 211 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 214 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 306 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 166 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 145 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 158 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 178 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 154 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 178 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 164 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 188 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 180 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 167 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 279 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 175 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 198 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 155 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 351 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 368 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 296 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 279 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 482 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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