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laughin posted links to complaints raised against Velikovsky's Venus scenario by Carl Sagan - far too many to address effectively here without essentially rewriting my book.

As an example, Sagan noted that any event capable of ejecting Venus from Jupiter would have vaporized large portions of Jupiter, which should remain intensely hot even today.

One mystery relating to Jupiter is why its core measures half the size and twice the temperature as is predicted by prevailing theory. A 2010 study from researchers at Peking University concluded that a body ten times the size of the Earth collided with Jupiter, then sank to its core and vaporized it (see link to study below.)

The giant Red Spot storm on Jupiter reaches down to its core and up to the top of the Jovian atmosphere, and is thought to shuttle material upward through the atmosphere. Perhaps a product of that impact, it could quite conceivably have been the conduit of material ejected by the collision.

Sagan said that any astronomic process that creates a large body also creates many smaller bodies. My outlook is that the same process could quite reasonably have intermixed the varied materials documented to constitute some comets.

By comparison to ancient myths cited by Velikovsky, the god Zeus learned through prophecy that a goddess named Metis would give birth to a god even greater than him. To prevent that, he swallowed Metis, and Pallas Athene (Venus) sprung from his head.

As another example, Sagan remarks about the unlikelihood of an event occuring with just the right energy to have ejected Venus into orbit without also ejecting it out of the solar system. The first problem with Sagan's outlook is that he should know there is no validity to applying calculations of probability retrospectively. If there were, we could easily make the argument based on probabilities that the universe itself shouldn't exist.

- Laird


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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1995 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 467 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 440 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 299 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 354 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 351 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 278 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 329 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 331 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 266 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 365 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 403 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 343 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 324 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 352 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 324 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 280 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 226 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 185 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 295 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 262 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 296 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 393 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 264 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 260 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 298 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 354 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 269 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 264 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 257 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 241 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 241 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 281 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 372 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 339 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 496 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 252 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 268 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 362 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 368 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 350 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 376 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 256 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 250 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 231 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 223 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 206 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 301 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 778 skakos 04-Nov-15 22:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 358 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 329 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 254 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 210 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 409 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 325 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 366 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 429 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 362 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 370 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 314 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 395 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 532 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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