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laughin posted links to complaints raised against Velikovsky's Venus scenario by Carl Sagan - far too many to address effectively here without essentially rewriting my book.

As an example, Sagan noted that any event capable of ejecting Venus from Jupiter would have vaporized large portions of Jupiter, which should remain intensely hot even today.

One mystery relating to Jupiter is why its core measures half the size and twice the temperature as is predicted by prevailing theory. A 2010 study from researchers at Peking University concluded that a body ten times the size of the Earth collided with Jupiter, then sank to its core and vaporized it (see link to study below.)

The giant Red Spot storm on Jupiter reaches down to its core and up to the top of the Jovian atmosphere, and is thought to shuttle material upward through the atmosphere. Perhaps a product of that impact, it could quite conceivably have been the conduit of material ejected by the collision.

Sagan said that any astronomic process that creates a large body also creates many smaller bodies. My outlook is that the same process could quite reasonably have intermixed the varied materials documented to constitute some comets.

By comparison to ancient myths cited by Velikovsky, the god Zeus learned through prophecy that a goddess named Metis would give birth to a god even greater than him. To prevent that, he swallowed Metis, and Pallas Athene (Venus) sprung from his head.

As another example, Sagan remarks about the unlikelihood of an event occuring with just the right energy to have ejected Venus into orbit without also ejecting it out of the solar system. The first problem with Sagan's outlook is that he should know there is no validity to applying calculations of probability retrospectively. If there were, we could easily make the argument based on probabilities that the universe itself shouldn't exist.

- Laird


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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1819 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 411 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 393 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 326 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 317 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 221 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 294 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 184 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 229 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 337 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 184 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 193 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 184 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 177 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 177 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 183 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 244 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 262 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 198 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 178 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 155 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 183 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 193 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 166 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 290 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 189 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 348 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 215 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 218 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 238 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 304 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 233 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 223 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 218 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 203 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 192 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 241 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 300 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 433 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 221 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 228 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 318 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 325 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 177 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 158 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 272 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 165 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 189 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 327 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 166 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 193 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 201 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 193 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 176 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 207 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 164 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 367 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 290 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 382 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 328 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 355 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 495 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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