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Laird Scranton Wrote:
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> Carol wrote:
>
> Laird, if Venus were 'out of its orbit' as
> recently as Copernicus' time, we'd still see the
> effects of it.

>
> Could you give me examples of the types of effects
> we should be seeing, but aren't?
>
> Likely effects I do see include:
>
> The great Red Spot storm on Jupiter that's large
> enough to have potentially ejected planet-sized
> bodies.
>
> The short-term comets whose orbits gravitate to
> Jupiter.
>
> One Galilean moon, whose resonance with the other
> three has been disrupted in ways that are
> difficult to explain.
>
> Crustal damage on Mars that is consistent with
> planet impact.
>
> The apparent rotational resonance that exists
> between Venus and the Earth.
>
> I can extend this list, if need be.
>
> - Laird


Laird,

The most basic reason, and the one Velikovskians cannot explain away is that if Venus was gallivanting around the solar system in historic times, as you seem to think possible, there is NO way it would have settled into an almost circular orbit, the most circular and least eccentric in the solar system, in the time frame allowed, without having also disturbed the orbits of Earth and Mars, and the moon's orbit around earth. It's just not possible.

Really, this is the last comment I want to make on this thread. We went through this in July, so it's pointless re-hashing it all over again.

Carol

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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1988 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 464 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 316 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 436 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 317 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 299 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 352 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 349 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 280 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 313 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 236 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 326 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 328 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 284 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 266 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 262 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 266 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 361 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 400 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 236 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 341 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 309 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 266 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 323 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 236 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 350 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 320 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 250 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 224 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 316 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 246 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 182 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 244 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 332 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 391 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 262 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 258 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 296 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 351 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 267 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 261 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 254 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 239 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 239 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 371 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 492 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 249 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 267 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 359 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 367 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 345 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 184 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 302 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 193 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 373 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 228 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 221 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 203 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 297 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 354 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
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Cosmic Disconnect 251 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 206 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 407 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 322 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 363 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 425 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 359 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 366 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 391 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 529 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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