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Laird Scranton Wrote:
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> Carol wrote:
>
> Laird, if Venus were 'out of its orbit' as
> recently as Copernicus' time, we'd still see the
> effects of it.

>
> Could you give me examples of the types of effects
> we should be seeing, but aren't?
>
> Likely effects I do see include:
>
> The great Red Spot storm on Jupiter that's large
> enough to have potentially ejected planet-sized
> bodies.
>
> The short-term comets whose orbits gravitate to
> Jupiter.
>
> One Galilean moon, whose resonance with the other
> three has been disrupted in ways that are
> difficult to explain.
>
> Crustal damage on Mars that is consistent with
> planet impact.
>
> The apparent rotational resonance that exists
> between Venus and the Earth.
>
> I can extend this list, if need be.
>
> - Laird


Laird,

The most basic reason, and the one Velikovskians cannot explain away is that if Venus was gallivanting around the solar system in historic times, as you seem to think possible, there is NO way it would have settled into an almost circular orbit, the most circular and least eccentric in the solar system, in the time frame allowed, without having also disturbed the orbits of Earth and Mars, and the moon's orbit around earth. It's just not possible.

Really, this is the last comment I want to make on this thread. We went through this in July, so it's pointless re-hashing it all over again.

Carol

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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 2048 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 465 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 325 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 300 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 287 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 279 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 251 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 246 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
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SUMMARY? 268 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 387 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 250 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
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Regarding myths... 249 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
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