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Laird Scranton Wrote:
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> Carol wrote:
>
> Laird, if Venus were 'out of its orbit' as
> recently as Copernicus' time, we'd still see the
> effects of it.

>
> Could you give me examples of the types of effects
> we should be seeing, but aren't?
>
> Likely effects I do see include:
>
> The great Red Spot storm on Jupiter that's large
> enough to have potentially ejected planet-sized
> bodies.
>
> The short-term comets whose orbits gravitate to
> Jupiter.
>
> One Galilean moon, whose resonance with the other
> three has been disrupted in ways that are
> difficult to explain.
>
> Crustal damage on Mars that is consistent with
> planet impact.
>
> The apparent rotational resonance that exists
> between Venus and the Earth.
>
> I can extend this list, if need be.
>
> - Laird


Laird,

The most basic reason, and the one Velikovskians cannot explain away is that if Venus was gallivanting around the solar system in historic times, as you seem to think possible, there is NO way it would have settled into an almost circular orbit, the most circular and least eccentric in the solar system, in the time frame allowed, without having also disturbed the orbits of Earth and Mars, and the moon's orbit around earth. It's just not possible.

Really, this is the last comment I want to make on this thread. We went through this in July, so it's pointless re-hashing it all over again.

Carol

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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1796 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 405 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 284 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 385 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 320 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 185 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 282 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 332 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 301 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 180 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 272 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 282 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 180 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 172 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 278 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 189 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 178 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 193 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 172 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 181 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 150 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 185 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 221 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 161 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 184 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 343 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 206 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 214 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 230 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 297 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 227 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 218 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 217 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
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Re: What about scientism? 186 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 331 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 427 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 216 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 220 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 312 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 316 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 172 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 279 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 151 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 162 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 185 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 321 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 160 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 194 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 186 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 171 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 322 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 282 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 346 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
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