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carolb Wrote:
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> Starbinder Wrote:
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> > carolb Wrote:
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> > > Starbinder Wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Carol,
> > > >
> > > > Been following the Rosetta Mission for 15
> > > months
> > > > now. I've watched the conference you
> linked.
> > At
> > > > 1:06:00 Jean-Pierre Bibring is speaking. He
> > > > reprimands a collegue for making a cartoon
> of
> > > the
> > > > skier on Hapi Valley saying that it was the
> > > wrong
> > > > thing to do. He goes on to say that there
> is
> > no
> > > > surface ice anywhere on the comet and even
> in
> > > the
> > > > crevasses where they have looked deep.
> > > >
> > > > Ever wonder why we aren't getting any
> OSIRIS
> > > > images??
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What ARE you talking about? What part of
> > >
> >
> [url=http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Scien
>
> >
> > >
> >
> ce/Rosetta/Exposed_water_ice_detected_on_comet_s_s
>
> >
> > > urface]this link from Rosetta[/url] didn't
> you
> > > read?
> > >
> > > Do I have to isolate the mentions of surface
> > ice
> > > for you? Start with these.
> > >
> > > [quote]Using the high-resolution science
> camera
> > on
> > > board ESA’s Rosetta spacecraft, scientists
> > have
> > > identified more than a hundred patches of
> water
> > > ice a few metres in size on the surface of
> > Comet
> > > 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]A new study just published in the
> > journal
> > > Astronomy & Astrophysics focuses on an
> analysis
> > of
> > > bright patches of exposed ice on the
> comet’s
> > > surface.
> > >
> > > Based on observations of the gas emerging
> from
> > > comets, they are known to be rich in ices. As
> > they
> > > move closer to the Sun along their orbits,
> > their
> > > surfaces are warmed and the ices sublimate
> into
> > > gas, which streams away from the nucleus,
> > dragging
> > > along dust particles embedded in the ice to
> > form
> > > the coma and tail.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]Now, using images taken with
> Rosetta’s
> > > OSIRIS narrow-angle camera last September,
> > > scientists have identified 120 regions on the
> > > surface of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko
> that
> > > are up to ten times brighter than the average
> > > surface brightness.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]“Water ice is the most plausible
> > > explanation for the occurrence and properties
> > of
> > > these features,” says Antoine Pommerol of
> the
> > > University of Bern and lead author of the
> > study.
> > >
> > > “At the time of our observations, the comet
> > was
> > > far enough from the Sun such that the rate at
> > > which water ice would sublimate would have
> been
> > > less than 1 mm per hour of incident solar
> > energy.
> > > By contrast, if carbon dioxide or carbon
> > monoxide
> > > ice had been exposed, it would have rapidly
> > > sublimated when illuminated by the same
> amount
> > of
> > > sunlight. Thus we would not expect to see
> that
> > > type of ice stable on the surface at this
> > > time.”[/quote]
> > >
> > > Are these scientists lying about the evidence
> > > before their eyes?
> > >
> > > As for Osiris images, I have no idea what
> > you're
> > > talking about. There are plenty on the
> Rosetta
> > > blog.
> > >
> > > Carol
> >
> >
> > As I understand it most if not all of those
> > reports or papers were from September 2014.
> > Bibring updates the overall mission in June by
> > saying that even the lightest spots (blue) are
> > actually very dark, from memory I think he says
> 3
> > times darker than the darkest of the moon. Very
> > low albedo. I suspect there is some very
> creative
> > dynamic image stretching going on at ESA. Not
> only
> > in trying to produce ice where there is none
> but
> > just this week with super-illuminated imagery
> to
> > bring out jets.
> >
> > FYI they are not releasing OSIRIS images as
> they
> > promised they would. There is an orgy of NAVCAM
> > though.
> >
> > Give Bibring a listen.
>
>
> I find it hard to believe what I've just read
> there. You're so far down the conspiracy rabbit
> hole, it's just not worth responding to.
>
> Carol

Actually, you don't need to respond. I suggested a listen of Bibring the LEAD investigator/scientist who says that reason the surface looks bright is due to dynamic image stretching. He also says, as I mentioned, the lighest spots, which he shows as he talks are actually darker than the darkest of our moon. His words not mine.

Don't listen to him if you don't want to, but until you do you will not know what he is saying about ice, light spots and image enhancements.

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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1824 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 411 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 290 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 394 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 326 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 317 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 250 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 294 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 185 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 244 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 185 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 177 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 320 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 177 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 183 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 193 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 199 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 178 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 155 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 183 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 166 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 290 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 189 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 254 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 349 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 215 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 218 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 239 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 304 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 233 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 223 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 219 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 203 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 194 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 241 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 301 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 435 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 221 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 228 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 319 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 325 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 177 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 160 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 272 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 165 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 328 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 166 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 193 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 201 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 193 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 177 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 313 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 207 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 164 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 367 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 384 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 329 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 356 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 496 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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