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carolb Wrote:
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> Starbinder Wrote:
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> > carolb Wrote:
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> > > Starbinder Wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Carol,
> > > >
> > > > Been following the Rosetta Mission for 15
> > > months
> > > > now. I've watched the conference you
> linked.
> > At
> > > > 1:06:00 Jean-Pierre Bibring is speaking. He
> > > > reprimands a collegue for making a cartoon
> of
> > > the
> > > > skier on Hapi Valley saying that it was the
> > > wrong
> > > > thing to do. He goes on to say that there
> is
> > no
> > > > surface ice anywhere on the comet and even
> in
> > > the
> > > > crevasses where they have looked deep.
> > > >
> > > > Ever wonder why we aren't getting any
> OSIRIS
> > > > images??
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What ARE you talking about? What part of
> > >
> >
> [url=http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Scien
>
> >
> > >
> >
> ce/Rosetta/Exposed_water_ice_detected_on_comet_s_s
>
> >
> > > urface]this link from Rosetta[/url] didn't
> you
> > > read?
> > >
> > > Do I have to isolate the mentions of surface
> > ice
> > > for you? Start with these.
> > >
> > > [quote]Using the high-resolution science
> camera
> > on
> > > board ESA’s Rosetta spacecraft, scientists
> > have
> > > identified more than a hundred patches of
> water
> > > ice a few metres in size on the surface of
> > Comet
> > > 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]A new study just published in the
> > journal
> > > Astronomy & Astrophysics focuses on an
> analysis
> > of
> > > bright patches of exposed ice on the
> comet’s
> > > surface.
> > >
> > > Based on observations of the gas emerging
> from
> > > comets, they are known to be rich in ices. As
> > they
> > > move closer to the Sun along their orbits,
> > their
> > > surfaces are warmed and the ices sublimate
> into
> > > gas, which streams away from the nucleus,
> > dragging
> > > along dust particles embedded in the ice to
> > form
> > > the coma and tail.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]Now, using images taken with
> Rosetta’s
> > > OSIRIS narrow-angle camera last September,
> > > scientists have identified 120 regions on the
> > > surface of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko
> that
> > > are up to ten times brighter than the average
> > > surface brightness.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]“Water ice is the most plausible
> > > explanation for the occurrence and properties
> > of
> > > these features,” says Antoine Pommerol of
> the
> > > University of Bern and lead author of the
> > study.
> > >
> > > “At the time of our observations, the comet
> > was
> > > far enough from the Sun such that the rate at
> > > which water ice would sublimate would have
> been
> > > less than 1 mm per hour of incident solar
> > energy.
> > > By contrast, if carbon dioxide or carbon
> > monoxide
> > > ice had been exposed, it would have rapidly
> > > sublimated when illuminated by the same
> amount
> > of
> > > sunlight. Thus we would not expect to see
> that
> > > type of ice stable on the surface at this
> > > time.”[/quote]
> > >
> > > Are these scientists lying about the evidence
> > > before their eyes?
> > >
> > > As for Osiris images, I have no idea what
> > you're
> > > talking about. There are plenty on the
> Rosetta
> > > blog.
> > >
> > > Carol
> >
> >
> > As I understand it most if not all of those
> > reports or papers were from September 2014.
> > Bibring updates the overall mission in June by
> > saying that even the lightest spots (blue) are
> > actually very dark, from memory I think he says
> 3
> > times darker than the darkest of the moon. Very
> > low albedo. I suspect there is some very
> creative
> > dynamic image stretching going on at ESA. Not
> only
> > in trying to produce ice where there is none
> but
> > just this week with super-illuminated imagery
> to
> > bring out jets.
> >
> > FYI they are not releasing OSIRIS images as
> they
> > promised they would. There is an orgy of NAVCAM
> > though.
> >
> > Give Bibring a listen.
>
>
> I find it hard to believe what I've just read
> there. You're so far down the conspiracy rabbit
> hole, it's just not worth responding to.
>
> Carol

Actually, you don't need to respond. I suggested a listen of Bibring the LEAD investigator/scientist who says that reason the surface looks bright is due to dynamic image stretching. He also says, as I mentioned, the lighest spots, which he shows as he talks are actually darker than the darkest of our moon. His words not mine.

Don't listen to him if you don't want to, but until you do you will not know what he is saying about ice, light spots and image enhancements.

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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1938 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 437 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 422 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 302 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 272 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 340 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 297 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 236 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 251 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 310 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 302 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 251 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 363 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 205 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 325 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 295 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 199 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 213 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 301 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 201 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 170 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 182 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 363 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 230 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 234 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 277 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 322 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 252 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 248 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 241 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 219 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 213 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 253 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 356 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 323 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 467 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 235 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 241 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 335 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 342 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 193 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 321 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 172 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 357 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 180 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 206 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 221 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 214 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 205 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 190 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 272 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 339 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 310 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
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Cosmic Disconnect 220 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 177 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 394 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 412 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 333 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 352 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 297 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 379 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 517 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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