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carolb Wrote:
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> Starbinder Wrote:
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> > carolb Wrote:
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> > > Starbinder Wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Carol,
> > > >
> > > > Been following the Rosetta Mission for 15
> > > months
> > > > now. I've watched the conference you
> linked.
> > At
> > > > 1:06:00 Jean-Pierre Bibring is speaking. He
> > > > reprimands a collegue for making a cartoon
> of
> > > the
> > > > skier on Hapi Valley saying that it was the
> > > wrong
> > > > thing to do. He goes on to say that there
> is
> > no
> > > > surface ice anywhere on the comet and even
> in
> > > the
> > > > crevasses where they have looked deep.
> > > >
> > > > Ever wonder why we aren't getting any
> OSIRIS
> > > > images??
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What ARE you talking about? What part of
> > >
> >
> [url=http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Scien
>
> >
> > >
> >
> ce/Rosetta/Exposed_water_ice_detected_on_comet_s_s
>
> >
> > > urface]this link from Rosetta[/url] didn't
> you
> > > read?
> > >
> > > Do I have to isolate the mentions of surface
> > ice
> > > for you? Start with these.
> > >
> > > [quote]Using the high-resolution science
> camera
> > on
> > > board ESA’s Rosetta spacecraft, scientists
> > have
> > > identified more than a hundred patches of
> water
> > > ice a few metres in size on the surface of
> > Comet
> > > 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]A new study just published in the
> > journal
> > > Astronomy & Astrophysics focuses on an
> analysis
> > of
> > > bright patches of exposed ice on the
> comet’s
> > > surface.
> > >
> > > Based on observations of the gas emerging
> from
> > > comets, they are known to be rich in ices. As
> > they
> > > move closer to the Sun along their orbits,
> > their
> > > surfaces are warmed and the ices sublimate
> into
> > > gas, which streams away from the nucleus,
> > dragging
> > > along dust particles embedded in the ice to
> > form
> > > the coma and tail.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]Now, using images taken with
> Rosetta’s
> > > OSIRIS narrow-angle camera last September,
> > > scientists have identified 120 regions on the
> > > surface of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko
> that
> > > are up to ten times brighter than the average
> > > surface brightness.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]“Water ice is the most plausible
> > > explanation for the occurrence and properties
> > of
> > > these features,” says Antoine Pommerol of
> the
> > > University of Bern and lead author of the
> > study.
> > >
> > > “At the time of our observations, the comet
> > was
> > > far enough from the Sun such that the rate at
> > > which water ice would sublimate would have
> been
> > > less than 1 mm per hour of incident solar
> > energy.
> > > By contrast, if carbon dioxide or carbon
> > monoxide
> > > ice had been exposed, it would have rapidly
> > > sublimated when illuminated by the same
> amount
> > of
> > > sunlight. Thus we would not expect to see
> that
> > > type of ice stable on the surface at this
> > > time.”[/quote]
> > >
> > > Are these scientists lying about the evidence
> > > before their eyes?
> > >
> > > As for Osiris images, I have no idea what
> > you're
> > > talking about. There are plenty on the
> Rosetta
> > > blog.
> > >
> > > Carol
> >
> >
> > As I understand it most if not all of those
> > reports or papers were from September 2014.
> > Bibring updates the overall mission in June by
> > saying that even the lightest spots (blue) are
> > actually very dark, from memory I think he says
> 3
> > times darker than the darkest of the moon. Very
> > low albedo. I suspect there is some very
> creative
> > dynamic image stretching going on at ESA. Not
> only
> > in trying to produce ice where there is none
> but
> > just this week with super-illuminated imagery
> to
> > bring out jets.
> >
> > FYI they are not releasing OSIRIS images as
> they
> > promised they would. There is an orgy of NAVCAM
> > though.
> >
> > Give Bibring a listen.
>
>
> I find it hard to believe what I've just read
> there. You're so far down the conspiracy rabbit
> hole, it's just not worth responding to.
>
> Carol

Actually, you don't need to respond. I suggested a listen of Bibring the LEAD investigator/scientist who says that reason the surface looks bright is due to dynamic image stretching. He also says, as I mentioned, the lighest spots, which he shows as he talks are actually darker than the darkest of our moon. His words not mine.

Don't listen to him if you don't want to, but until you do you will not know what he is saying about ice, light spots and image enhancements.

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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1772 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 399 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 279 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 378 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 214 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 231 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 236 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 278 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 282 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 232 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 220 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 197 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 216 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 210 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 324 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 296 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 182 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 174 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 181 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 174 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 211 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 198 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 164 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 165 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 272 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 184 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 182 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 188 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 174 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 165 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 189 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 145 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 190 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 180 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 174 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 157 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 202 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 204 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 179 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 192 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 222 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 187 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 183 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 200 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 209 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 223 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 291 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 221 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 212 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 211 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 189 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 181 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 229 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 325 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 422 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 211 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 214 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 307 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 166 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 274 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 146 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 158 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 178 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 154 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 178 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 194 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 165 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 188 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 180 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 167 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 191 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 176 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 280 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 198 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 155 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 352 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 369 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 279 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 483 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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