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carolb Wrote:
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> Starbinder Wrote:
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> > carolb Wrote:
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> > > Starbinder Wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Carol,
> > > >
> > > > Been following the Rosetta Mission for 15
> > > months
> > > > now. I've watched the conference you
> linked.
> > At
> > > > 1:06:00 Jean-Pierre Bibring is speaking. He
> > > > reprimands a collegue for making a cartoon
> of
> > > the
> > > > skier on Hapi Valley saying that it was the
> > > wrong
> > > > thing to do. He goes on to say that there
> is
> > no
> > > > surface ice anywhere on the comet and even
> in
> > > the
> > > > crevasses where they have looked deep.
> > > >
> > > > Ever wonder why we aren't getting any
> OSIRIS
> > > > images??
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What ARE you talking about? What part of
> > >
> >
> [url=http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Scien
>
> >
> > >
> >
> ce/Rosetta/Exposed_water_ice_detected_on_comet_s_s
>
> >
> > > urface]this link from Rosetta[/url] didn't
> you
> > > read?
> > >
> > > Do I have to isolate the mentions of surface
> > ice
> > > for you? Start with these.
> > >
> > > [quote]Using the high-resolution science
> camera
> > on
> > > board ESA’s Rosetta spacecraft, scientists
> > have
> > > identified more than a hundred patches of
> water
> > > ice a few metres in size on the surface of
> > Comet
> > > 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]A new study just published in the
> > journal
> > > Astronomy & Astrophysics focuses on an
> analysis
> > of
> > > bright patches of exposed ice on the
> comet’s
> > > surface.
> > >
> > > Based on observations of the gas emerging
> from
> > > comets, they are known to be rich in ices. As
> > they
> > > move closer to the Sun along their orbits,
> > their
> > > surfaces are warmed and the ices sublimate
> into
> > > gas, which streams away from the nucleus,
> > dragging
> > > along dust particles embedded in the ice to
> > form
> > > the coma and tail.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]Now, using images taken with
> Rosetta’s
> > > OSIRIS narrow-angle camera last September,
> > > scientists have identified 120 regions on the
> > > surface of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko
> that
> > > are up to ten times brighter than the average
> > > surface brightness.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]“Water ice is the most plausible
> > > explanation for the occurrence and properties
> > of
> > > these features,” says Antoine Pommerol of
> the
> > > University of Bern and lead author of the
> > study.
> > >
> > > “At the time of our observations, the comet
> > was
> > > far enough from the Sun such that the rate at
> > > which water ice would sublimate would have
> been
> > > less than 1 mm per hour of incident solar
> > energy.
> > > By contrast, if carbon dioxide or carbon
> > monoxide
> > > ice had been exposed, it would have rapidly
> > > sublimated when illuminated by the same
> amount
> > of
> > > sunlight. Thus we would not expect to see
> that
> > > type of ice stable on the surface at this
> > > time.”[/quote]
> > >
> > > Are these scientists lying about the evidence
> > > before their eyes?
> > >
> > > As for Osiris images, I have no idea what
> > you're
> > > talking about. There are plenty on the
> Rosetta
> > > blog.
> > >
> > > Carol
> >
> >
> > As I understand it most if not all of those
> > reports or papers were from September 2014.
> > Bibring updates the overall mission in June by
> > saying that even the lightest spots (blue) are
> > actually very dark, from memory I think he says
> 3
> > times darker than the darkest of the moon. Very
> > low albedo. I suspect there is some very
> creative
> > dynamic image stretching going on at ESA. Not
> only
> > in trying to produce ice where there is none
> but
> > just this week with super-illuminated imagery
> to
> > bring out jets.
> >
> > FYI they are not releasing OSIRIS images as
> they
> > promised they would. There is an orgy of NAVCAM
> > though.
> >
> > Give Bibring a listen.
>
>
> I find it hard to believe what I've just read
> there. You're so far down the conspiracy rabbit
> hole, it's just not worth responding to.
>
> Carol

Actually, you don't need to respond. I suggested a listen of Bibring the LEAD investigator/scientist who says that reason the surface looks bright is due to dynamic image stretching. He also says, as I mentioned, the lighest spots, which he shows as he talks are actually darker than the darkest of our moon. His words not mine.

Don't listen to him if you don't want to, but until you do you will not know what he is saying about ice, light spots and image enhancements.

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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 1995 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 467 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 440 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 299 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 354 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 351 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 315 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 252 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 278 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 329 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 257 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 331 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 255 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 266 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 266 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 365 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 403 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 343 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 324 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 352 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 212 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 324 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 253 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 280 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 293 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 226 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 217 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 207 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 185 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 237 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 203 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 295 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 219 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 262 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 296 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 245 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 227 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 234 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 393 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
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Re: What about scientism? 298 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
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Re: What about scientism? 269 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
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Re: What about scientism? 257 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
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Re: What about scientism? 241 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 372 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 339 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 496 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 252 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
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Re: SUMMARY? 362 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 368 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 213 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 350 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 195 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 376 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 208 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 256 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 228 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 250 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 218 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 231 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 223 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 206 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 301 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 247 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 223 skakos 04-Nov-15 15:11
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 358 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 239 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 241 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
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Cosmic Disconnect 254 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 210 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 409 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 325 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 366 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 429 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 362 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 369 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 314 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 395 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 532 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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