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>>>Have you seen numbers with radar cross section figures? Curious about your claim that these aren't stealthy.

Several Forums are chatting about the complete* STEALTH vs angular Stealth,
ie....your aircraft is more or less Stealth when in various angular positions of movement.

PAK FA has Stealth,...bit loses a % aspect of that with the exposed engine nacels

F-16.NET had some good arguments going against posters saying the PAK FA in this configuration was* Supercruise.

The actual numbers breakdown for RCS/LO...RCS/VLO will probably be a short while as boards hash things out.

This version from the airshow video is more cleaned up than earlier prototype version which was video before [winter test flight]

The RCS figures I used were from Strategy page website.

This version of PAK FA appears far different than the one from the winter flight ,
The 3 D thrust vector nozzels which are not new,
if it has other* vector assist on its frame....that would be interesting.

They are saying this aircraft is highly agile and will eat F-35 for dinner.

Its a nice looking aircraft,....if they can do this in far shorter time than US did,
its possible China can have a Bird with similar capability.

The US has the highground via the Technology lead for decades,
yet its a different game when Satellites get knocked out,....AWACS and Tankers.

Russia and China will be home,
it will be the away Game for the US.

I think F-35 will be Epic Fail...except for the VSTOL [Vertical capable version]

The arena of hypervelocity missiles will be the great equalizer in the future.
if you can get that set up in older gen birds, could bring 2-3 times the capability in numeric to the game

US lost in Cope India the agile SU 27/30 class,...

a bunch of Mig 23's racing on the deck and breaking up to cut off the escape from the Box killed the US F-15C's

my personal opinion on the US is that they are bleeding off Trillions in these mindless Neocon Military adventurisms,

the cutting back on F-22 program

US is in danger of repeating the mistakes of Germany in WW-2 with overfocus/over engineered - technology,
which is its endurance and turn around time in maint/logistics.

T Bird

Post Edited (18-Aug-11 04:29)

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Russia shows off its new stealth fighter Sukhoi T-50 173 Dave Light 17-Aug-11 18:44
Re: Russia shows off its new stealth fighter Sukhoi T-50 81 Pete Vanderzwet 17-Aug-11 22:10
Re: Not Stealth with that set up 83 Thunderbird 18-Aug-11 02:38
Re: Not Stealth with that set up 88 Pete Vanderzwet 18-Aug-11 03:25
Re: Not Stealth with that set up 86 Thunderbird 18-Aug-11 04:24
Re: Not Stealth with that set up 67 Dave Light 18-Aug-11 14:48
Re: Russia's New Airborne Counter-Stealth Radars 783 Thunderbird 18-Aug-11 17:01
I guess they need to adopt some Wild Weasel strategy 107 Absinthujone 18-Aug-11 13:13
"Pajura configuration" - a fresh romanian original idea for a stealth jetfighter 924 Absinthujone 18-Aug-11 15:45
Re: "Pajura configuration" - a fresh romanian original idea for a stealth jetfighter 119 Thunderbird 18-Aug-11 17:16
Did Russia give Mig 1.44's technology to China's J-20? 147 Absinthujone 18-Aug-11 15:15
The Big Question: Wither US Air-Superiority? 108 Deep1 20-Aug-11 13:59
Re: PAK FA MAKS Hi Res 164 Thunderbird 21-Aug-11 03:00

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