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RaVaN,

"Reasoned violence is what seperates us from the animals and should be used to solve the problem, just treating the symptom. In the case of war, people try to make war a nice event, when it isn't and never has been. When you go to war, you should go to solve the problem...not cater to your emotions. This is why reasoned violence should be one of the last resorts as well."

No animals place themselves in danger for no reason, thus all animal violence has a reason - it is always reasoned violence - mating, feeding, territory, self-preservation - all survival 'instincts' and all good reasons.

Another point is animals don't start wars over beliefs, and it is beliefs that separate us from the animals not reason or emotion. Beliefs are the result of our ability to imagine 'other worlds' (religious or political), they are not real, they are conceptual and, as such, all wars are irrational and unreasonable.

As for taking out a real and present threat to 'you or yours' I have no argument whatsoever but, let's not go chasing shadows and imagined 'threats' to our life and liberty.



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Subject Views Written By Posted
War is Hell 192 SunSword 03-Jun-06 01:07
Re: War is Hell 116 Gengus 03-Jun-06 03:24
Re: War is Hell 89 RaVaN 03-Jun-06 07:07
Re: War is Hell 127 IanG 03-Jun-06 08:08
Re: War is Hell 115 RaVaN 03-Jun-06 10:15
Re: War is Hell 121 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 05:08
Re: War is Hell 82 SunSword 03-Jun-06 12:24
Re: War is Hell 93 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 16:01
Re: War is Hell 105 SunSword 04-Jun-06 01:47
Re: Outcomes 114 Thunderbird 03-Jun-06 17:18
Re: Outcomes 107 Jergat 03-Jun-06 17:47
Re: Outcomes 136 Thunderbird 03-Jun-06 19:24
Kill Gene 91 Citizen Attorney 03-Jun-06 19:34
Re: Kill Gene 84 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 20:56
Nature/Nurture 103 SunSword 04-Jun-06 13:10
Re: Kill Gene 125 ladyswanca 04-Jun-06 16:34
Re: Kill Gene 104 RaVaN 04-Jun-06 23:52
Re: Kill Gene 108 Hoppy 05-Jun-06 04:05
Re: Kill Gene 101 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 07:04
Re: Kill Gene 84 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 14:02
Re: Kill Gene 84 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:13
Re: Kill Gene 111 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 16:32
Re: Kill Gene 116 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:54
Re: Kill Gene 144 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:59
Re: Kill Gene 83 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 17:29
Re: Kill Gene 79 Dave Light 06-Jun-06 12:04
Re: War is Hell 113 Hoppy 05-Jun-06 14:34
Re: War is Hell 62 RaVaN 05-Jun-06 23:40
Re: War is Hell 104 Hoppy 06-Jun-06 00:48
Re: War is Hell 106 RaVaN 06-Jun-06 05:03
Re: Headless Heroes 119 PriorityRed 05-Jun-06 23:51
Re: Headless Heroes 113 Hoppy 06-Jun-06 00:51
Re: War is Hell 92 phoboskitty 06-Jun-06 10:51
Re: War is Hell 132 phoboskitty 06-Jun-06 11:01
Re: War is Hell 160 Aarooga 06-Jun-06 13:13


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