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Hey Pati,

Thanks for the response, I was hoping you would respond to my post. Now to your points.....

"Whether this Technique is Hindu, I honestly could not say as I frankly don't know exactly what Hindu is.( still trying to figure out what Christianity ( my faith) is :) "


I highly suggest you research in to Hinduism as you will find that the Vedic traditions from TM are definitely rooted in Hinduism, and TM is most certainly a religion. Meditiation itself is not a religion but a technique, however, I feel as though meditation does not require any specific dogmatic adherence to any Organization in order to utilize it. One ofmy favorite philosophers, J Krishnamurti, has this to say about meditiation-

"Meditation is one of the greatest arts in life-perhaps the greatest, and one cannot possibly learn it from anybody. That is the beauty of it. It has no technique and therefore no authority. When you learn about yourself, watch yourself, watch the way you walk, how you eat, what you say, the gossip, the hate, the jealousy-if you are aware of all that in yourself, without any choice, that is part of meditation.

So meditation can take place when you are sitting in a bus or walking in the woods full of light and shadows, or listening to the singing of birds or looking at the face of your wife or child."


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Pati wrote-

"I have no conflict with TM being taught in public schools as an optional program any more than I have a conflict with say physical education being taught. "

Well, physical education is not an optional course in Public Schools, in fact it is required to graduate, so it is not comparable to "optional" courses such as TM. I don't have a problem with it being taught either, as long as it has no direct bearing on the requirements to graduate, and remains strictly optional. It is most certainly a non-secular subject because of the Hindu roots, and this suffice to say is making things awfully complicated at the extremely diverse public school systems where there are many different backgrounds represented.

"As for Religion being taught in schools I am coming of an opinon that the lack of any exposure at an early age, to the varieties of Religious beliefs, Creationism and Evolution theories of our world, in some simple introductory form, leaves a child......well uninformed and unaware of the broad scope of individual differences. "


Creationism is philosophy, Religion is also a non-scientific area of study, Evolution is SCIENCE and should not be held hostage by various religious opinions of the Creator. Biology classes shouldn't be religious forums where each different religion gets to add their philosophical spin on biology. Biology and evolution for that matter have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with religion. We are taught the different world religions in school, but in a history class, not biology. All children need to do is look over the representation from around the world in their classrooms to appreciate the broad scope of individual differences. Public schools will keep this diversity alive, non-secular schools will further seperate us.


"I had to chuckle at the remark in your opening post where the speaker implies TM is a conspiracy to turn meditators into Hindus. "

It's not my remark, it's from Maharishi himself-"'When America is ready for Hinduism, I will tell them.'" I don't see it really as a conspiracy, because if one does even a minimal overview of TM and Hinduism, you can see the correlation. I am a firm believer that meditation does not require any adherence to any tradition. But TM clearly lays out specific traditions that are based in Hinduism.

"If so I sure hope, in my case, it doesn't take place at Christmas, in front of my fellow church members............ohhhhhhhh, so embarassing!!!!"


Lol! That's funny. Do you ever have a conversations with your congregation about TM? This is what I have read about the Christian opinion of TM.

"Because Maharishi and the TM movement has claimed that TM is not a religion, "Jewish, Protestant, and Catholic leaders have endorsed TM to their congregations, and many practice it themselves. But TM is Hinduism. Its origin, initiation rite, nature, practice, and theory are all religious at the core" "Contrary to TM's current claims, TM is a Hindu religious system and is not compatible with Christianity. It denies the central doctrines of the Christian faith and asserts the futile Hindu system of monism and maya", where monism asserts that there is "no ultimate distinction between...good or evil, or Creator and creature" (What Everyone Should Know…, p. 87) and maya asserts that "the world...is not what it appears" to be (Apologetics in the New Age…, p. 239).

It is clear that, within the TM movement, the idolatrous pagan rite of the Puja (contrary to Exodus 20:2–5), the failure to see, much less honor, the clear distinction between creature and Creator (contrary to Romans 1:25), and the assertion of the basic goodness of all men (contrary to Luke 11:13) are sufficient proof, but by no means are the only proof, in demonstrating TM's incompatibility with Christianity and its rejection of Christ as the true God, the true salvation and the true hope for mankind. "




Tim

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Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 629 Timothy 03-Jul-02 00:44
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Re: Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 346 Akhenaten 03-Jul-02 10:30
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Re: Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 183 Akhenaten 05-Jul-02 10:21
Re: Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 160 Timothy 05-Jul-02 21:41
Re: Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 219 Akhenaten 07-Jul-02 17:20
To Astikpati 155 Timothy 09-Jul-02 14:54
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Re: Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 590 Timothy 11-Jul-02 16:18
Re: Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 159 Orion von Koch 11-Jul-02 16:42
Re: Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 175 Timothy 11-Jul-02 16:50
Re: Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 325 Astikapati 12-Jul-02 07:03
Re: Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation 349 Timothy 12-Jul-02 18:49
Tim 154 Astikapati 12-Jul-02 23:57


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