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Hi all,

in a way the UK and USA (in a way) should be greatful to Henry VIII for having the forsite to kick out the RC church from the UK...reasons best known to himself..:)

cos what he did in a way was to create (or end up having) a secular state, where church(faith) politics was taken out of the politics of the state (well OK to a degree)

Islamic states ARE the politics of the State and here lies their own straight jacket, its one thing to have your faith and believe in it..which is fine, but to encorporate it into the state so ALL PEOPLE of that state HAVE to abide by those "faith laws" rather than "Human" laws, which IMHO are FAR SUPERIOR to any faith, can create problems for people in those States who donĀ“t believe in the State " faith" and have their "faith" elsewhere......its why muslims in the west are by enlarge comfortable in their faith...because they can follow their faith without intimidation from the State
Its much harder to follow a different belief in an Islamic State...


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maybe a start would be.. 635 Geoff 15-Oct-01 20:24
Re: maybe a start would be.. 220 Randy 15-Oct-01 21:01
Re: maybe a start would be.. 249 Michelle Frost 15-Oct-01 21:30
Re: maybe a start would be.. 243 Pat 15-Oct-01 23:28
the church and state 216 Geoff 16-Oct-01 00:07
Re: maybe a start would be.. 233 Skynet 16-Oct-01 00:59
Okay ... time to stone Kat 233 Katherine Reece 16-Oct-01 01:40
Let he who is without opinion throw the first stone? 189 Michelle Frost 16-Oct-01 18:59
Let's get the Head Brad 244 Tman 16-Oct-01 01:54
Re: First round of deals 202 Skynet 16-Oct-01 06:41
Re: First round of deals 210 Tman 16-Oct-01 16:58
Re: Let he who is without opinion throw the first stone? 447 Margaret 16-Oct-01 22:32

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