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Hi all,

in a way the UK and USA (in a way) should be greatful to Henry VIII for having the forsite to kick out the RC church from the UK...reasons best known to himself..:)

cos what he did in a way was to create (or end up having) a secular state, where church(faith) politics was taken out of the politics of the state (well OK to a degree)

Islamic states ARE the politics of the State and here lies their own straight jacket, its one thing to have your faith and believe in it..which is fine, but to encorporate it into the state so ALL PEOPLE of that state HAVE to abide by those "faith laws" rather than "Human" laws, which IMHO are FAR SUPERIOR to any faith, can create problems for people in those States who donĀ“t believe in the State " faith" and have their "faith" elsewhere......its why muslims in the west are by enlarge comfortable in their faith...because they can follow their faith without intimidation from the State
Its much harder to follow a different belief in an Islamic State...


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maybe a start would be.. 570 Geoff 15-Oct-01 20:24
Re: maybe a start would be.. 194 Randy 15-Oct-01 21:01
Re: maybe a start would be.. 228 Michelle Frost 15-Oct-01 21:30
Re: maybe a start would be.. 220 Pat 15-Oct-01 23:28
the church and state 188 Geoff 16-Oct-01 00:07
Re: maybe a start would be.. 212 Skynet 16-Oct-01 00:59
Okay ... time to stone Kat 210 Katherine Reece 16-Oct-01 01:40
Let he who is without opinion throw the first stone? 167 Michelle Frost 16-Oct-01 18:59
Let's get the Head Brad 216 Tman 16-Oct-01 01:54
Re: First round of deals 176 Skynet 16-Oct-01 06:41
Re: First round of deals 177 Tman 16-Oct-01 16:58
Re: Let he who is without opinion throw the first stone? 399 Margaret 16-Oct-01 22:32

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