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Peter, you missed again. There's a difference between trying to find common ground, acknowledging that a person cares, and trying to paint a person as wonderful or whatever.

I'm glad that the climate thing touched a chord though, because it suggests you're more anti that, than, perhaps, cognizant if how varied collectivism is. You seem to have trained your mind to think that it's a left liberal thing only. It is not.

From here you have a choice, to deny that it is a much more inclusive concept, or embrace the greater reality.

You say you favour universal health. You would vote for it, no? If so, then how can you not say you're being a collectivist... in that context?

That's all I'm saying. This is not a discussion about my interest in climate change . It is about a term you introduced. See how you immediately got diverted? That should tell you something.

I'm inviting you to examine that concept more inclusively, that's all. That's the most relevant approach, imo.

If you opened up that way, I think you'll find that others here, self confessed liberals would agree with you on many sub topics. In the absence of that, you look partisan, as one who who only wants to apply a negative label some of the time.

That's why I invited this thread, to give you a chance to present yourself in a more accurate light. I'm trying to do you a favour, because clearly some people here have declared you a lost cause, which may be fair if you are indeed only willing to rail against some forms of collectivism.

If that's true then your issue can't really be about collectivism. It's narrower.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06-Dec-18 04:24 by Poster Boy.

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Step back to the past 573 ldennyjr 04-Dec-18 16:02
Re: Step back to the past 168 Eddie Larry 04-Dec-18 16:38
Re: Step back to the past 84 Archaic 05-Dec-18 18:21
Re: Step back to the past 91 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-18 21:10
Re: Step back to the past 81 WhoWeird 05-Dec-18 21:15
Re: Step back to the past 85 Archaic 05-Dec-18 21:18
Re: Step back to the past 87 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-18 21:42
Re: Step back to the past 84 Archaic 05-Dec-18 22:06
Re: Step back to the past 125 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-18 23:05
P O O 77 Warwick 06-Dec-18 17:26
drip drip drip 90 drrayeye 05-Dec-18 08:32
Just another drip 89 Barbelo 05-Dec-18 10:47
One drip at a time 85 drrayeye 05-Dec-18 15:35
Re: Step back to the past 101 ldennyjr 05-Dec-18 15:58
Not at all 82 drrayeye 05-Dec-18 16:29
Re: Not at all 87 WhoWeird 05-Dec-18 16:50
Re: Not at all 91 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 16:53
Re: Not at all 81 WhoWeird 05-Dec-18 16:57
Re: Not at all 82 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 17:00
Re: Not at all 83 Jock 05-Dec-18 17:02
Re: Not at all 77 WhoWeird 05-Dec-18 17:32
Re: Not at all 84 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 17:32
Re: Not at all 85 Jock 05-Dec-18 18:00
Re: Not at all 90 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 20:14
Re: Not at all 92 Archaic 05-Dec-18 18:23
Re: Not at all 84 eli stills 05-Dec-18 18:49
Re: Not at all 82 Archaic 05-Dec-18 19:35
Re: Not at all 82 eli stills 05-Dec-18 21:02
big miss here, Pete 87 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 21:08
Re: big miss here, Pete 78 Archaic 05-Dec-18 21:09
Re: big miss here, Pete 81 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 21:55
Re: big miss here, Pete 86 Archaic 05-Dec-18 21:56
Re: big miss here, Pete 83 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 22:14
Re: big miss here, Pete 83 Archaic 05-Dec-18 22:20
Re: big miss here, Pete 79 WhoWeird 05-Dec-18 23:04
Re: Not at all 93 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 19:27
Re: Not at all 84 Archaic 05-Dec-18 19:33
Re: Not at all 88 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 20:18
Re: Not at all 83 Warwick 05-Dec-18 20:29
Re: Not at all 81 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 23:08
Re: Not at all 170 Archaic 05-Dec-18 20:40
Re: Not at all 82 eli stills 05-Dec-18 21:33
Re: Not at all 77 WhoWeird 05-Dec-18 21:43
Re: Not at all 82 Jock 05-Dec-18 21:52
Re: Not at all 91 Archaic 05-Dec-18 21:55
Re: Not at all 82 eli stills 05-Dec-18 23:05
Re: Not at all 88 Archaic 06-Dec-18 00:03
Re: Not at all 87 eli stills 06-Dec-18 01:05
Excellent summation 83 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 02:03
Re: Excellent summation 79 eli stills 06-Dec-18 02:23
Re: Excellent summation 87 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 02:38
Re: Excellent summation 83 eli stills 06-Dec-18 02:45
Re: Excellent summation 87 Archaic 06-Dec-18 03:52
Re: Excellent summation 89 WhoWeird 06-Dec-18 03:54
Re: Excellent summation 84 Archaic 06-Dec-18 04:01
What QAnon Arrests? 84 Barbelo 06-Dec-18 04:38
Re: What QAnon Arrests? 74 WhoWeird 06-Dec-18 11:49
Re: What QAnon Arrests? 81 Barbelo 06-Dec-18 20:32
Re: What QAnon Arrests? 85 WhoWeird 06-Dec-18 20:37
More WW BS 79 Barbelo 06-Dec-18 21:37
Re: More WW BS 90 WhoWeird 06-Dec-18 21:40
Re: More WW BS + More BS 79 Barbelo 06-Dec-18 22:06
Re: More WW BS + More BS 97 WhoWeird 07-Dec-18 12:30
Re: More WW BS + More BS 135 Barbelo 07-Dec-18 19:39
Re: More WW BS + More BS 113 WhoWeird 07-Dec-18 19:42
Re: More WW BS + More BS 124 Barbelo 07-Dec-18 21:26
Re: More WW BS + More BS 125 WhoWeird 07-Dec-18 21:32
Re: More WW BS + More BS 108 eli stills 07-Dec-18 21:52
Re: More WW BS + More BS 140 Barbelo 07-Dec-18 21:56
Re: More WW BS + More BS 147 eli stills 07-Dec-18 22:15
Re: More WW BS + More BS 122 WhoWeird 08-Dec-18 00:30
Re: More WW BS + More BS 70 Archaic 12-Dec-18 21:48
Re: More WW BS + More BS 70 WhoWeird 12-Dec-18 22:00
Re: More WW BS + More BS 78 Archaic 12-Dec-18 23:40
Re: More WW BS + More BS 71 WhoWeird 13-Dec-18 03:27
Re: What QAnon Arrests? 77 WhoWeird 12-Dec-18 21:05
Re: What QAnon Arrests? 151 WhoWeird 13-Dec-18 19:20
Re: Excellent summation 105 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 05:03
Re: Not at all 92 Poster Boy 05-Dec-18 23:09
Re: Not at all 94 Archaic 06-Dec-18 00:03
COLLECTIVIST et al 96 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 01:53
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 89 Archaic 06-Dec-18 03:59
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 87 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 04:23
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 88 Archaic 06-Dec-18 04:29
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 88 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 04:38
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 82 Archaic 06-Dec-18 04:41
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 84 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 04:52
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 86 Archaic 06-Dec-18 04:54
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 93 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 04:59
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 83 Archaic 06-Dec-18 05:01
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 87 Archaic 06-Dec-18 05:04
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 86 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 05:08
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 84 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 05:10
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 82 Archaic 06-Dec-18 19:55
Re: COLLECTIVIST et al 104 WhoWeird 06-Dec-18 11:54
Thanks for trying--I think 79 drrayeye 06-Dec-18 11:53
Re: Thanks for trying--I think 86 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 17:01
Re: Thanks for trying--I think 79 Archaic 06-Dec-18 19:59
Re: Thanks for trying--I think 74 Archaic 06-Dec-18 20:01
Re: Thanks for trying--I think 143 eli stills 06-Dec-18 22:49
Re: Thanks for trying--I think 76 Archaic 12-Dec-18 21:26
Re: Not at all 154 muppedo 09-Dec-18 01:06
Re: Not at all 93 WhoWeird 05-Dec-18 19:35
Re: Not at all 91 Jock 05-Dec-18 20:51
Re: Not at all 88 Archaic 05-Dec-18 21:10
Re: Not at all 94 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 02:57
Re: Not at all 100 Jock 06-Dec-18 04:42
Re: Not at all 86 Archaic 06-Dec-18 04:48
Re: Not at all 89 Poster Boy 06-Dec-18 04:54
Re: Not at all 90 Jock 06-Dec-18 06:59
S**T Flinging 96 Barbelo 06-Dec-18 07:06
MOTHER What? 94 Barbelo 06-Dec-18 06:12


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