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Brian Patterson Wrote:
> Aine wrote:
> " But once you start waving guns around, it's no
> longer peaceful."
> No one is waving guns. You have jumped the shark.


> Aine posted:
> " The fact of the matter is that the Hammonds
> didn't ask for any
> help from these clowns and they had no right to
> just try to take over government property."
> Every American citizen has the right to protest.

Did you not read what I wrote?


These clowns can protest--peacefully. That's within their rights. But once you start waving guns around, it's no longer peaceful. Peaceful would have been a sit in or some such.
> You act as if by carrying
> guns they are breaking the law.
> I would suggest that each of them
> has obtained the right to open carry.

Which is UTTERLY irrelevant. They are armed and openly threatening law enforcement officers WHILE ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING A FEDERAL BUILDING. I can't believe I even have to explain this to you.
> Aine, I can not explain
> for the life of me what has
> happened to you on this thread.

You can't?

Let me lay it out for you. People like these nuts are dangerous. Anarchy is not a good thing--but if you think they're in the right, Have Gun Will Travel, why don't you go and join them?

I also don't take very kindly to their sympathizers calling for my death simply because I am a federal employee. So yeah, I want them taken out before they get me.

Is that plain enough for you? They have no right to threaten me or anyone else who is employed by ANY government agency, be it federal, state or local or law enforcement at any level. That is terrorism.

> Your history here has in
> my opinion been almost impeccable,
> using logic and reason in almost every case.

I am using reason and logic and the rule of law. It's not my fault if you don't want to hear it.

> But for some reason, and
> maybe I am simply reading this
> incorrectly, you seem to be almost
> hysterical in your rants concerning the
> events in Oregon.

Because I am sick of these types of people. They're insane and they're just as dangerous as ISIS.

At least be honest with yourself: if they were not white rednecks--if they were black, Latino or Arab Muslim--they'd be dead already and you'd be questioning what took the G men so long to get them.

And in other news, Tamir Rice is still dead.

> I apologize in advance if
> you find this post insulting, it
> was not intended as that. I just don't
> understand how someone of your intelligence
> can become so hateful towards a group of
> protestors
> with whom you have nothing more than political
> disagreements.

They are not protesters. They are terrorists and should be dealt with as such. They believe the federal government is illegitimate and is not allowed to own land even though that land is held by the American people. They will never attempt to settle their issues legally in court because, of course, the courts have no authority either because the United States of America doesn't exist. In their fantasy world, taking land, rights and property by any means necessary, including armed sedition, is acceptable. It's also okay to threaten police and law enforcement who are attempting to do just that: enforce the law.

This is what right wing hysteria does to people.

What do you do with them?

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Oregon Yeehawdists 2112 Loki74 03-Jan-16 23:52
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 472 Aine 04-Jan-16 00:30
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 450 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 501 Aine 04-Jan-16 17:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 415 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:53
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 489 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 453 Jergat 04-Jan-16 18:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 524 Aine 04-Jan-16 20:57
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 393 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 14:43
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 541 Aine 05-Jan-16 15:48
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 497 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:05
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 473 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:22
They were tried twice 461 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:35
Re: They were tried twice 413 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:48
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 431 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-16 17:00
History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 484 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 16:28
Re: History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 492 Aine 06-Jan-16 18:00
What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 514 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 01:58
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 497 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:24
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 438 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:19
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 484 Aine 08-Jan-16 17:24
Thread split 716 Loki74 04-Jan-16 06:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 487 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 17:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 475 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 310 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 482 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 18:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 440 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 559 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 20:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 511 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 453 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 403 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 426 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 489 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:43
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 427 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:14
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 393 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:04
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 513 calisurfer30 05-Jan-16 03:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 357 Aine 05-Jan-16 14:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 503 calisurfer30 06-Jan-16 01:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 447 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 452 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:23
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 530 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:29
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 563 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 353 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:38
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 526 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:45
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 434 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 489 poster72 04-Jan-16 21:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 392 Aine 05-Jan-16 01:24
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 390 poster72 05-Jan-16 19:13
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 480 Aine 05-Jan-16 19:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 426 carolb 05-Jan-16 19:50
mod note 381 JonnyMcA 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 453 poster72 05-Jan-16 20:51
A discussion about the issues in this case 426 Ratcho 08-Jan-16 20:08
Thugs 373 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 20:08
Re: Thugs 372 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:44
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 533 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 15:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 392 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 16:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 394 Aine 05-Jan-16 17:28
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 543 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 20:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 378 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 411 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 21:42
Ethics 376 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Ethics 512 Aine 06-Jan-16 20:50
taught by your father to never point a gun 557 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 01:59
Re: taught by your father to never point a gun 392 Aine 06-Jan-16 14:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 577 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 22:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 271 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 18:49
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 386 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 400 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 21:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 499 carolb 06-Jan-16 21:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 340 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 487 Sirfiroth 06-Jan-16 23:33
Pot/Kettle moment 396 randompHactor 06-Jan-16 23:57
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 493 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 01:03
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 356 randompHactor 07-Jan-16 02:39
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 483 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 02:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 336 Aine 07-Jan-16 18:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 558 carolb 07-Jan-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 459 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 410 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 413 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:31
LIberal Yeehawdists 537 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 20:55
LIberal? 446 drrayeye 07-Jan-16 22:10
Re: Yes LIberal Federal Government. 469 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:08
LIberal 400 drrayeye 08-Jan-16 11:31
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 479 carolb 07-Jan-16 00:20
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 523 Loki74 07-Jan-16 07:30
Armed, pathetic and hungry 387 Loki74 07-Jan-16 08:22
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 433 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:51
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 490 Loki74 07-Jan-16 16:01
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 490 Aine 07-Jan-16 16:33
Putting things in perspective 457 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 450 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:30
Re: Putting things in perspective 483 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 21:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 399 Aine 07-Jan-16 21:59
Re: Putting things in perspective 469 carolb 07-Jan-16 22:36
Re: Putting things in perspective 465 Aine 08-Jan-16 01:33
Re: Putting things in perspective 527 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:09
By all means lets not let facts get in the way 462 Lothur 09-Jan-16 16:54
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 473 carolb 09-Jan-16 17:20
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 443 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:51
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 570 carolb 09-Jan-16 19:41
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 581 Lothur 11-Jan-16 00:40
Personally..... 471 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 498 adequatedane 08-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 399 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 419 adequatedane 09-Jan-16 18:55
Let's take a look at the person behind the appeal 497 Ratcho 10-Jan-16 16:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 562 Lothur 10-Jan-16 22:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 437 adequatedane 10-Jan-16 22:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 512 D-Archer 10-Jan-16 10:45
Spot the special forces wannabes 395 Loki74 10-Jan-16 17:02
Hilarious narrative Andy! 532 Sirfiroth 10-Jan-16 23:46
Re: Hilarious narrative Andy! 482 Loki74 11-Jan-16 09:01
Re: Hilarious narrative II Andy! 538 Sirfiroth 11-Jan-16 16:10
Lookit me, Ma! I's in Delta! 411 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:38
Get lost buddy! I's a SEAL! 362 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:42
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 458 bobj 21-Feb-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 573 Aine 22-Feb-16 00:41
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 374 calisurfer30 24-Feb-16 01:50
Re: Sherriff's uprising ...defending one of their own against the Fed's 390 Ratcho 23-Feb-16 21:06

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