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Ratcho Wrote:
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> It was deemed an act of terrorism and this is why
> they received 5 years minimum. You call this
> justice?

One. More. Time. I never expressed an opinion on the justice/injustice of their sentence. They have a long history in that area, but they are not fighting their sentence. They are complying.

That's the difference between them and Waco and Ruby Ridge. They complied. David Koresh and Randy Weaver did not. But they're not the ones camped out in an armed takeover of public property, denying taxpayers access to their own land. The Bundys and their thug friends are. Whatever else happens here, the Hammonds are not involved and bear no responsibility for it.

Even the Cattlemen's Association is calling for the Bundys to knock it off and leave.

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> Grass fires are now terrorist activities in the
> USSA. When the BLM controlled fires burned out of
> control, destroying ranchers grasslands...who went
> to jail for terrorism? When the BLM unplugged the
> holding pond of that mind in Idaho, unleashing an
> horrific environmental disaster for the river ? No
> one was punished

It's not "ranchers grasslands". It's OUR grasslands. And they owe us money.

Being a Canadian, you can probably be forgiven for not knowing the difference. It is not the rancher's property. It is the People's Land according to the Constitution.
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> Your position isn't reasonable in any sense -
> unless one has a hate on for Ranchers who ARE
> being harassed.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for the ranchers at all. They've bilked the taxpayers out of millions (getting rich themselves) and destroyed entire ecosystems in the process. They have no right to complain about losing a few cattle.

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Oregon Yeehawdists 2131 Loki74 03-Jan-16 23:52
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 479 Aine 04-Jan-16 00:30
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 457 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 509 Aine 04-Jan-16 17:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 421 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:53
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 495 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 459 Jergat 04-Jan-16 18:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 531 Aine 04-Jan-16 20:57
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 400 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 14:43
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 550 Aine 05-Jan-16 15:48
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 504 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:05
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 485 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:22
They were tried twice 470 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:35
Re: They were tried twice 426 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:48
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 437 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-16 17:00
History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 496 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 16:28
Re: History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 503 Aine 06-Jan-16 18:00
What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 522 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 01:58
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 504 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:24
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 446 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:19
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 491 Aine 08-Jan-16 17:24
Thread split 741 Loki74 04-Jan-16 06:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 497 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 17:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 489 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 319 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 490 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 18:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 453 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 584 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 20:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 518 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 461 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 414 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 432 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 496 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:43
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 434 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:14
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 398 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:04
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 531 calisurfer30 05-Jan-16 03:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 365 Aine 05-Jan-16 14:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 511 calisurfer30 06-Jan-16 01:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 454 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 460 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:23
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 537 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:29
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 572 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 360 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:38
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 535 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:45
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 453 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 504 poster72 04-Jan-16 21:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 399 Aine 05-Jan-16 01:24
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 401 poster72 05-Jan-16 19:13
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 488 Aine 05-Jan-16 19:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 434 carolb 05-Jan-16 19:50
mod note 389 JonnyMcA 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 462 poster72 05-Jan-16 20:51
A discussion about the issues in this case 434 Ratcho 08-Jan-16 20:08
Thugs 381 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 20:08
Re: Thugs 381 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:44
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 544 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 15:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 397 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 16:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 402 Aine 05-Jan-16 17:28
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 552 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 20:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 388 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 420 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 21:42
Ethics 383 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Ethics 522 Aine 06-Jan-16 20:50
taught by your father to never point a gun 565 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 01:59
Re: taught by your father to never point a gun 401 Aine 06-Jan-16 14:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 585 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 22:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 279 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 18:49
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 394 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 408 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 21:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 509 carolb 06-Jan-16 21:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 347 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 497 Sirfiroth 06-Jan-16 23:33
Pot/Kettle moment 403 randompHactor 06-Jan-16 23:57
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 499 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 01:03
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 365 randompHactor 07-Jan-16 02:39
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 490 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 02:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 343 Aine 07-Jan-16 18:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 566 carolb 07-Jan-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 473 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 417 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 422 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:31
LIberal Yeehawdists 549 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 20:55
LIberal? 454 drrayeye 07-Jan-16 22:10
Re: Yes LIberal Federal Government. 476 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:08
LIberal 407 drrayeye 08-Jan-16 11:31
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 486 carolb 07-Jan-16 00:20
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 530 Loki74 07-Jan-16 07:30
Armed, pathetic and hungry 395 Loki74 07-Jan-16 08:22
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 443 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:51
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 497 Loki74 07-Jan-16 16:01
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 496 Aine 07-Jan-16 16:33
Putting things in perspective 466 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 458 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:30
Re: Putting things in perspective 490 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 21:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 405 Aine 07-Jan-16 21:59
Re: Putting things in perspective 478 carolb 07-Jan-16 22:36
Re: Putting things in perspective 473 Aine 08-Jan-16 01:33
Re: Putting things in perspective 535 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:09
By all means lets not let facts get in the way 471 Lothur 09-Jan-16 16:54
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 481 carolb 09-Jan-16 17:20
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 454 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:51
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 580 carolb 09-Jan-16 19:41
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 590 Lothur 11-Jan-16 00:40
Personally..... 477 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 510 adequatedane 08-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 407 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 425 adequatedane 09-Jan-16 18:55
Let's take a look at the person behind the appeal 506 Ratcho 10-Jan-16 16:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 572 Lothur 10-Jan-16 22:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 444 adequatedane 10-Jan-16 22:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 520 D-Archer 10-Jan-16 10:45
Spot the special forces wannabes 405 Loki74 10-Jan-16 17:02
Hilarious narrative Andy! 541 Sirfiroth 10-Jan-16 23:46
Re: Hilarious narrative Andy! 489 Loki74 11-Jan-16 09:01
Re: Hilarious narrative II Andy! 563 Sirfiroth 11-Jan-16 16:10
Lookit me, Ma! I's in Delta! 433 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:38
Get lost buddy! I's a SEAL! 371 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:42
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 465 bobj 21-Feb-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 583 Aine 22-Feb-16 00:41
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 382 calisurfer30 24-Feb-16 01:50
Re: Sherriff's uprising ...defending one of their own against the Fed's 397 Ratcho 23-Feb-16 21:06


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