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Ratcho Wrote:
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> I never said anything about shooting protesters at
> Ferguson...ever - unlike you who called for nuking
> the ME and now killing of scores of American
> citizens who are protesting an obvious travesty of
> justice.

I never said "nuke the ME". With modern conventional weapons, that's totally unnecessary. I have no problem with a massive assault against ISIS, though. They are a global threat that must be dealt with by a variety of means, including militarily.

These clowns can protest--peacefully. That's within their rights. But once you start waving guns around, it's no longer peaceful. Peaceful would have been a sit in or some such.

They want the benefits of living in modern society without the responsibility that comes with it. They truly believe the law does not apply to them.

You obviously haven't read the history of
> what led to this or statements made by former BLM
> employee who confirms that many previous wildfires
> occurred, from other ranchers AND THE BLM, and no
> charges laid.

Irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that the Hammonds didn't ask for any help from these clowns and they had no right to just try to take over government property. THAT is the salient fact. The ends do not justify the means. If they're so upset, they have recourse through their elected officials and the courts.

>
> 5 years for a wildfire - you are crazy if you
> believe this is reasonable.

I didn't say it was reasonable, but that is what the statute called for. That's why they're being sent back. I was pointing out the difference between a normal fire and a wildfire.

It is less than 1/2 of
> 1% of the 23,000 acres involved here and this
> family has crazing rights going way back and
> confirmed with the State of Oregon...if you were
> aware of any facts here. Ignorance becomes you.

Having grazing rights doesn't mean you can set it on fire, for God's sake. The BLM can do that. Not people who are renting the land for a profit.

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Oregon Yeehawdists 2132 Loki74 03-Jan-16 23:52
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 480 Aine 04-Jan-16 00:30
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 458 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 510 Aine 04-Jan-16 17:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 422 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:53
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 496 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 460 Jergat 04-Jan-16 18:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 532 Aine 04-Jan-16 20:57
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 401 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 14:43
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 551 Aine 05-Jan-16 15:48
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 505 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:05
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 487 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:22
They were tried twice 471 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:35
Re: They were tried twice 433 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:48
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 438 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-16 17:00
History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 497 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 16:28
Re: History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 506 Aine 06-Jan-16 18:00
What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 524 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 01:58
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 505 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:24
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 447 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:19
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 493 Aine 08-Jan-16 17:24
Thread split 744 Loki74 04-Jan-16 06:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 498 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 17:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 494 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 320 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 491 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 18:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 454 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 588 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 20:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 520 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 462 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 415 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 434 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 497 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:43
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 435 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:14
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 400 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:04
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 538 calisurfer30 05-Jan-16 03:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 366 Aine 05-Jan-16 14:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 512 calisurfer30 06-Jan-16 01:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 455 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 461 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:23
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 538 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:29
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 573 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 361 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:38
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 536 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:45
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 460 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 504 poster72 04-Jan-16 21:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 400 Aine 05-Jan-16 01:24
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 401 poster72 05-Jan-16 19:13
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 489 Aine 05-Jan-16 19:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 435 carolb 05-Jan-16 19:50
mod note 390 JonnyMcA 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 462 poster72 05-Jan-16 20:51
A discussion about the issues in this case 435 Ratcho 08-Jan-16 20:08
Thugs 382 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 20:08
Re: Thugs 383 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:44
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 544 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 15:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 399 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 16:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 403 Aine 05-Jan-16 17:28
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 553 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 20:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 389 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 421 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 21:42
Ethics 384 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Ethics 524 Aine 06-Jan-16 20:50
taught by your father to never point a gun 566 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 01:59
Re: taught by your father to never point a gun 402 Aine 06-Jan-16 14:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 586 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 22:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 280 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 18:49
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 395 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 410 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 21:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 511 carolb 06-Jan-16 21:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 348 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 499 Sirfiroth 06-Jan-16 23:33
Pot/Kettle moment 405 randompHactor 06-Jan-16 23:57
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 502 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 01:03
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 366 randompHactor 07-Jan-16 02:39
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 491 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 02:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 344 Aine 07-Jan-16 18:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 567 carolb 07-Jan-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 474 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 418 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 423 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:31
LIberal Yeehawdists 550 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 20:55
LIberal? 455 drrayeye 07-Jan-16 22:10
Re: Yes LIberal Federal Government. 477 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:08
LIberal 408 drrayeye 08-Jan-16 11:31
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 487 carolb 07-Jan-16 00:20
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 531 Loki74 07-Jan-16 07:30
Armed, pathetic and hungry 396 Loki74 07-Jan-16 08:22
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 444 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:51
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 498 Loki74 07-Jan-16 16:01
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 497 Aine 07-Jan-16 16:33
Putting things in perspective 467 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 459 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:30
Re: Putting things in perspective 491 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 21:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 407 Aine 07-Jan-16 21:59
Re: Putting things in perspective 479 carolb 07-Jan-16 22:36
Re: Putting things in perspective 474 Aine 08-Jan-16 01:33
Re: Putting things in perspective 536 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:09
By all means lets not let facts get in the way 472 Lothur 09-Jan-16 16:54
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 482 carolb 09-Jan-16 17:20
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 455 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:51
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 582 carolb 09-Jan-16 19:41
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 591 Lothur 11-Jan-16 00:40
Personally..... 478 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 511 adequatedane 08-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 408 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 427 adequatedane 09-Jan-16 18:55
Let's take a look at the person behind the appeal 507 Ratcho 10-Jan-16 16:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 573 Lothur 10-Jan-16 22:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 446 adequatedane 10-Jan-16 22:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 521 D-Archer 10-Jan-16 10:45
Spot the special forces wannabes 406 Loki74 10-Jan-16 17:02
Hilarious narrative Andy! 542 Sirfiroth 10-Jan-16 23:46
Re: Hilarious narrative Andy! 490 Loki74 11-Jan-16 09:01
Re: Hilarious narrative II Andy! 566 Sirfiroth 11-Jan-16 16:10
Lookit me, Ma! I's in Delta! 437 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:38
Get lost buddy! I's a SEAL! 372 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:42
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 467 bobj 21-Feb-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 584 Aine 22-Feb-16 00:41
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 383 calisurfer30 24-Feb-16 01:50
Re: Sherriff's uprising ...defending one of their own against the Fed's 398 Ratcho 23-Feb-16 21:06


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