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Sean writes "How about IAOM and MOAI? Do you see any Sumerian traces?

It's been suggested that these "secret words" are meant to be chanted in a ritualistic meditative sense.
The words may also be rooted in Alpha/OMega."

Yve has such great insights. From the Sumerian perspective, I can confirm that the names of at least some characters are important indicators. Plato’s Er, for example, is sourced from Sumerian ER which is also the origin of ‘to err’, with meanings ‘to wander’, ‘to perceive’. The received opinion concerning Hermes and the Corpus Hermeticum is that those writings came after Plato’s era, but the Sumerian tablets show that is simply not (always) the case - even if it’s true that the only known examples of the corpus were dated to the first centuries AD. I’m not the first to strongly suggest that Plato was influenced by the Hermetic writings.

Malvolio’s name is clearly important. Adding to Yve’s take, Sumerian MAL has the given meaning of ‘basket’, an extremely significant element in the ancient stories. It serves for the journey of the soul. I consider that MAL became French ‘mal’, meaning ‘bad’ but also ‘malle’ meaning ‘luggage’ as a result of the second humorous Sumerian tale that I’m currently (re)translating (very, very slowly) – which mirrors a combination of the uncle and the Malvolio character rather well in that his journey appears to be made for the purpose of seducing the cosmic Matriarch into bringing back light to a dark world, but, during that time, he will both write down and shout his grievances (with the help of beer) from his basket/ship. Malvolio might come from the same source as ‘malevolence’, that source being ‘la malle volante’, ‘the flying basket’ where French 'voler' is 'to fly' and 'to steal'. Then again, mal-folio would give the basket and the note, and there is also French 'vouloir', the 'will'.

As for IA/AI, this is most definitely a reference to and a command from the celestial Matriarch. Its appearance in The Story of Sukurru (aka The Instructions of Shuruppak) comes on line 260 in the context of a pledge made under the Tree of Consciousness and Knowledge to ‘multiply her waters’. The Sumerian symbol for ‘consciousness’ also translates to ‘hearing’ (a translator’s choice of words). There is an obvious clue given at the end of Twelfth Night when Malfolio’s note of recrimination is shouted out by the fool. It should be silent but a madman (and a drunkard) shouts. When I translated line 260 of The Story of Sukurru, I found a possible mirror in a poem from Norse mythology (Loki is also sourced from The Story of Sukurru!) and in a particularly obscure section which, like Shakespeare’s plays, has led to a lot of discussion:

I know of the horn of Heimdall, hidden
Under the high-reaching holy tree;
On it there pours from Valfather's pledge
A mighty stream: would you know yet more?
(Trans. H. Bellows, see Wikipedia)

Suffice to say that I don’t have the short and easy answer to Shakespeare’s M.O.A.I. But I can confirm that the mirroring of language also comes from Sumerian and that MU, UM, A, and I are discussed in Before Babel The Crystal Tongue. Is this all a trail to a treasure? Yes, indeed.

Madeleine

PS. I might take the ‘basket’ theme further as AoM for Before Babel The Crystal Tongue, hopefully in February. Perhaps we can meet again there.

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