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molder Wrote:
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> I don't think I would call it the English Disease
> but thanks for the story and photo's. People do
> some stupid things.
>
> We have managed to erect a sign at the Ha amonga
> a maui in Tonga asking people to keep off. A
> person had been seen on top of the monument with a
> shovel banging it down to gather some pieces of
> stone.
>
> I'm pretty sure he wasn't English.



Hello molder:

You would need to take your disagreement up with the English autobiographer and painter, Benjamin Robert Haydon. On June 10, 1830, Haydon entered into his diary:

”The English accuse the French of being vain. They are so, but it is public. The are vain of their Nation, they are vain of her monuments, her Art, her Science, her fame, while the English are more vain with less excuse, for the Vanity of the English is selfish, domestic, individual, confined.

A Mr
[sic] Childers bought the tree against which Wellington stood at Waterloo, & has cut it up for timber to make presents of. He gave the Duke of Rutland enough for a chair. This is exclusively an illustration of the English disease. They can’t let a thing remain for all to enjoy. They have no poetry, no national felling; they must have it to themselves, they must cut it up for their fire sides, & shew it to their Christmas parties. Oh England, never were such a people. On every English chimney piece, you will see a bit of the real Pyramids, a bit of Stonehenge! a bit of the first cinder of the first fire Eve ever made, a bit of the very fig leaf which Adam first gave her. You can’t admit the English into your gardens but they will strip your trees, cut their names on your statues, eat your fruit, & and stuff their pockets with bits for their musaeums [sic] .

In short the ignorance, vanity, want of feeling, grossness, rudeness, consequence, & impotent impertinence of any given number of English when they are uncontrolled, is a matter of great & just complaint from Petersburg to Lisbon…”
Neglected Genius: The Diaries of Benjamin Robert Haydon, 1808–1846, by John Jolliffe, 1990.

These sentiments are a continuation of the thoughts of Dr. Thomas Fuller, the seventeenth century English churchman and historian, who penned: ”Fools' names, like fools' faces, Are often seen in public places.”

In fairness to the British, it is unlikely that any specific distinction can presently be attributed to the English any more than any other nationality. During that specific Age, the British had the full benefit of the reach of the Empire, along with the finances and leisure to pursue ‘tourism as an avocation’, and copiously relish the trophies of their conquest.



Dr. Troglodyte


“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?“ - Decimus Junius Juvenalis


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