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Hello everybody, again.

There are a lot of debate and many try to identify the sacred Soma "plant". I think the "drink"- the liquid might have come from murex shells and it is the sap and colour produced by it.
I think Shiva lingams are to produce murex dye and Soma might be the liquid that produced. In the Soma mandalas and soma sacrifice there is a lot of fleece and wool. Why would you need it to peoduce this drink if its to do with textiles? If a large population dedicated their effort to produce purple and blue, it is a good chance that they preserve the process in hymns."distill,extract,sprinkle" is a good way to describe the process. You smash thousands of shells, extract the sap, add salts, dip the fabric, add potash(sprinkle cows urine) you have expensive purple fabric. Great offering to the gods. The populations around murex sites become included in the trade routes, a stream of ships guaranteed to keep coming, sharing culture, idea and technology's. Brings enlightenment and "civilization". Medicine, infrastructure, social organisation that prolong life. There was one producing so much that one becomes so rich and powerful that one might think that he is Shiva himself? :)
Anyways. No assurances that it is a plant. It can be a marine mollusc, or river mollusc, a creature which secretes one of the most sought after product at the time.
Do not get me wrong, I am only almost sure, but never the less it is a very good candidate.
The other plant that I can't see in the list of candidates is the Moringa oleifera. It is not just a superfood, its oil is not just very good soap, but they use it to clean water. It is a superplant in a region where clean water and sanitation is essential, to keep healthy, prolong life. The haoma drinking Scythians were just about in the neighbourhood. So can we rething the tale of Soma and Haoma, as accounts of practices and essentials of murex makers and traders?

Thank you and kind regards.

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Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 3396 lostsheep 13-Jun-17 10:33
Re: Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 503 lostsheep 17-Jun-17 14:49
Re: Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 416 Deep1 19-Jun-17 18:44
Re: Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 405 lostsheep 20-Jun-17 10:17
Re: Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 356 lostsheep 20-Jun-17 10:22
Re: Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 388 lostsheep 20-Jun-17 10:24
Re: Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 383 lostsheep 20-Jun-17 10:26
Re: Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 482 lostsheep 20-Jun-17 10:48
Murex dye, Shiva lingam, Soma 437 lostsheep 29-Jun-17 18:48
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 350 Dr. Troglodyte 29-Jun-17 20:20
Re: Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 355 lostsheep 03-Jul-17 15:21
Re: Shiva Lingams Infrastructure for Murex dye production 354 lostsheep 03-Jul-17 20:32
Soma, new proposed identity 756 lostsheep 24-Jun-17 12:51
Re: Soma, new proposed identity 317 lostsheep 03-Jul-17 16:26
Re: Soma, new proposed identity 315 lostsheep 03-Jul-17 16:40
Re: Soma, new proposed identity 321 lostsheep 04-Jul-17 20:53
Re: Soma, new proposed identity .. analemma of the sun. 352 SallyA 05-Jul-17 01:04
Re: Soma, new proposed identity .. analemma of the sun. 328 lostsheep 07-Jul-17 11:05
Re: Soma, new proposed identity .. analemma of the sun. 358 SallyA 08-Jul-17 01:08
Re: Soma, new proposed identity .. ethnogens and Hadronic physics 309 SallyA 08-Jul-17 04:24
Re: Soma, new proposed identity 300 lostsheep 08-Jul-17 11:18
Re: Soma, new proposed identity 294 lostsheep 08-Jul-17 12:42
Mod Note > Triplicate Topic Merged 713 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Jul-17 16:05


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