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Vanya, thank you for the references and brief lesson. As always, the debate of Christianity's validity is an infinite one. It can go on ad infinitum cloaked in the "believing" vs "knowing" diatribe. Addressing this contest of wills between the pious and realist is the point that "believing" is fueled by an emotional imagination and can be quite insurmountable for some to dismiss and concede to reality. The "knowing" faces an uphill battle when "tainted" interpretation comes into question in the debate. It is a part of human nature to cling to the security of something out of fear. What I find most dominant in the believers are patterns of fear. The very instrument of any religion has been fear tethered to a control mechanism, i.e.; the Crusades, Inquisition, the Dark Ages.

Aside from this historical theme, has been the observation that in the US, the States with the highest illiteracy rate rank also the highest in those that practice Christianity. This point is hard to get around. And the resilience of piety nests in this observation. And in my opinion, piety finds it's strength in numbers as well as emotional behavior driven by fear. Personal accountability is mostly absent in the Christian life, "it is God's Will", or that they weren't even accountable for their owns sins and, that by their own admission, a projected Savior had to do that for them as well.

If Christianity were on trial in a court room, it's case would be very weak. The Bible as their keystone is a text of astrology and mysticism bathed in ambiguity and easily interpreted to fit the their means at any given moment, for any common defense. The historical Jesus is awash in this system and bound to drowned by sheer weight of facts.

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The Historical Jesus 6818 Pete Vanderzwet 25-May-15 05:54
Re: The Historical Jesus 1118 deeside1 26-May-15 20:09
Re: The Historical Jesus 887 Pete Vanderzwet 02-Jun-15 23:02
Re: The Historical Jesus 871 deeside1 03-Jun-15 17:58
Re: The Historical Jesus 879 Pete Vanderzwet 25-Jun-15 16:46
Re: The Historical Jesus 801 drrayeye 17-Jun-15 19:55
Re: The Historical Jesus 806 deeside1 19-Jun-15 09:31
Re: The Historical Jesus 765 drrayeye 26-Jun-15 00:12
Re: The Historical Jesus 868 Yourconscience 05-Mar-16 16:45
Re: The Historical Jesus 709 bsbray 06-Mar-16 07:49
Re: The Historical Jesus 627 Yourconscience 06-Mar-16 15:44
Re: The Historical Jesus 629 bsbray 06-Mar-16 18:59
Re: The Historical Jesus 717 Eddie Larry 07-Mar-16 00:10
Re: The Historical Jesus 689 Vanya 07-Mar-16 17:52
Re: The Historical Jesus 578 Vanya 07-Mar-16 19:32
Re: The Historical Jesus 771 Yourconscience 08-Mar-16 15:48
Re: The Historical Jesus 561 Vanya 08-Mar-16 18:08
An alternative analysis 658 drrayeye 09-Mar-16 21:13
Re: An alternative analysis 656 Yourconscience 10-Mar-16 19:13
Re: The Historical Jesus 744 grangram 02-Jul-15 16:14
Re: The Historical Jesus 634 deeside1 03-Jul-15 10:37
Re: The Historical Jesus 855 grangram 05-Jul-15 06:43
Re: The Historical Jesus 865 gulsbo 15-Feb-16 19:15
Re: The Historical Jesus 611 grangram 02-Mar-16 12:25
Re: The Historical Jesus 613 BRN4327 25-Mar-17 11:01
Astrotheology? 784 bsbray 02-Mar-16 19:34
Re: Astrotheology? 614 drrayeye 06-Mar-16 15:38
Re: Astrotheology? 649 bsbray 06-Mar-16 19:06
Re: Astrotheology? 612 drrayeye 10-Mar-16 03:28
Re: Astrotheology? 603 bsbray 10-Mar-16 05:13
Re: Astrotheology? 586 drrayeye 10-Mar-16 06:49
Re: Astrotheology? 572 bsbray 10-Mar-16 21:17
Re: Astrotheology? 634 drrayeye 10-Mar-16 21:52
Re: Astrotheology? 688 bsbray 10-Mar-16 23:57
Re: Astrotheology? 675 drrayeye 11-Mar-16 01:50
Re: Astrotheology? 648 OCaptain 30-Mar-16 01:43
Re: Astrotheology? 637 OCaptain 30-Mar-16 01:38
Re: Astrotheology? 783 bsbray 15-Apr-16 00:33
Re: Astrotheology? 611 BRN4327 22-Apr-17 09:52
Settled science IMO 799 David L 11-May-16 13:09
Re: Mithras and Jesus 316 muppedo 28-Jul-17 23:42
Re: Mithras and Jesus 426 Eddie Larry 29-Jul-17 00:12
Re: Mithras and Jesus 418 muppedo 29-Jul-17 23:26
Re: Mithras and Jesus 393 eyeofhorus33 11-Aug-17 16:17
Re: Mithras and Jesus 715 muppedo 13-Aug-17 23:19


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