Mysteries :  The Official forums
For serious discussion of the controversies, approaches and enigmas surrounding the origins and development of the human species and of human civilization. (NB: for more ‘out there’ posts we point you in the direction of the ‘Paranormal & Supernatural’ Message Board). 
Welcome! Log InRegister
In Underworld, Graham Hancock refers to the yugas, or world ages, of Hindu belief. The four yugas--Satya, Treta, Dwapara and Kali--make up the Maha Yuga, and are said to be ages of decreasing spiritually and lifespan and increasing corruption and materialism. It is classically believed that the Kali Yuga began in 3102 BC--the year of Krishna's death--and will last for 432,000 years.

There are, however, different takes on this. Specifically, Sri Yukteswar, the guru of the well-known Paramahansa Yogananda, wrote that the maha yuga actually lasts just over 24,000 years, in a two-part descending and ascending cycle--also corresponding with the 25,920-year precession of the equinoxes. We are, according to Yukteswar, in the ascending Dwapara Yuga.

What difference does this make? Well, if there is any truth to the Hindu doctrine of the yugas, the Yukteswarian version is a bit brighter! Rather than in the very early years of a 432,000 age of darkness, we are ascending ever 'higher' other words, we've reached bottom and are now on our way up.

One benefit to this scenario is that it allows for both Hancockian theories of lost civilizations AND evolutionary theory...whether the scientific-materialist version or the transpersonal/spiritual evolutionary one espoused by such philosophers as Ken Wilber and Sri Aurobindo.

Evolution puts us on a basically linear track--towards greater and greater complexity, sophistication and technology; the problem with this scheme is that it is so-often uni-linear, meaning that it tracks certain aspects of the human being while playing little attention to others (e.g. a civilization can be very technologically advanced based upon evolved rational thinking, but inter-relationally in the backwaters because of stunted affective and inter-subjective development).

The yugas are (obviously) a cycle, like the four seasons or day and night. The Satya Yuga, or Golden Age, is both before and after where we are, just as daylight both precedes and follows the depths of night.

By using a dialectical method, I feel it is possible to synthesize these two seemingly incompatible models into what could be called helical or spiral time--so that we are both moving along a time line and cycle; we are both advancing and returning, aging, dying and being reborn--all as part of the same movement; yet it also recognizes that where we are has never been before...line AND circle; spiral.

Here is a related link:


Options: ReplyQuote

Subject Views Written By Posted
The Yugas; linear vs. cyclical time 881 jonnybardo 28-May-02 21:57
Re: The Yugas; linear vs. cyclical time 230 Mark Harlem 28-May-02 22:10
Re: The Yugas; linear vs. cyclical time 249 jonnybardo 28-May-02 22:36
Light is light--and only definable by what it reflects on.. 247 Mark Harlem 29-May-02 16:13
Thanks for the kind words! NT 250 jonnybardo 29-May-02 20:49

Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.