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Hi Peter,

Hope you're well. Didn't you and Ian have the exact same conversation awhile back? (*LOL*)

Anyways, I went through the thread and thought to do a compilation-type reply of some quotes. Here are some of the things you touched on and my comments:

<I>The Great Pyramid sits perfectly in line with the evolution of Egyptian pyramid building.</I>

Actually, their position on the time line of pyramid evolution is an anomoly. The Giza Three have geometric properties foreign to /\'s before and after. So, I don't agree with them being included in a natural evolution, however I <U>do</U> agree of the time they were built in relation to others. (<U>Evidence</U>: C14 dating; King Lists [multiple]; accounts by later scholars [Greek and other]).

<I>Khufu had to move the tomb of his mother from Dashour to Giza (beside his pyramid) for this very reason. Tomb robbing, even by Khufu's time, had become an epidimic.</I>

Not the best argument to explain why his 'mother' is at Giza, but a nice try. This is purely a guess. Plus, oh what folly it would be to usurp the deeds of robbers by moving a mother's burial place right next to the LARGEST darn monuments on earth. *lol* Yup... "Shhh... no one will notice there's a tomb here!"

<I>Pieces of the causeway were found with Khufu's cartouche on it. I forgot about that little piece of evidence, thanks for reminding me.</I>

True. This - I believe - was reported by Lehner (?). What would really help Ian's understanding (plus mine, yours, and everyone wanting to learn the answers) is if photo's of these could be shown instead of 'well this guy said'. I think that's all we're asking for.

<I>Name one shred of evidence suggesting it was built by someone other then Khufu.</I>

Fair posit, but that's not the point (from my perspective, anyway). 'Khufu' may just as easily have been someone involved in a larger project, or the name itself is a reference identity. Can I show a shred of evidence for this?Yes: please refer to upcoming articles in DE.

<I>Inscriptions in the GP would hurt the pyramid's attribution to Khufu.</I>

HHWhat? I think you made an honest typo there, Peter.:) If his name was plastered all over the inside I'm pretty sure there'd be no argument about who the sole owner was.

<I>[Ian]: "GP is as bare as old mother hubbards Cupboard"
So is every pyramid built before Unas. What's the big deal with the Great Pyramid?</I>

Not true. See: Djoser [Step Pyramid].

As for context, I can say that the ancient Egyptians were adamant about adding some kind of ornament to their burial sites and centers - indeed, they wrote names in early mastabas, and in practically every ground-based tomb in Egypt before, during, and after Giza - right up to the present. Why leave these few void? Did tomb robbers cut out the walls too, subsequently polishing them to machine-perfect glosses [Eg. KC]? Fine, there could have been plenty of time for every iota tokens removed, but inscriptions are another matter all together. That's being honest about the situation, Peter, and it's easier to admit we're all baffled instead of certain Egyptological historians pronouncing their version as the one and only true rendition.

<I>Evidence does not have emotion. It does not spiritually attach itself to theories.</I>

Agree 1 billion %. (Ian... I'm afraid this is reasonable considering we need to focus on tangible evidence - not feelings. I respect yours in regards to the ancients, but in this case there needs to be some honest balance about what is expected in the way arguing for or against a particular subject. Agreed?).

<I>I believe fragments were in the KC until recently, Ian.</I>

Yup. They were lying in the north-west corner untouched for some time. (<U>Evidence</U>: I've seen the drawings from the 19thcen, and modern photographs showing them. They were finally removed during the last scheduled cleaning of the GP's interior. I'm remain open to correction on this one, as I'm also thinking the fragments in the corner had to do with the tunnel excavated under the floor of the KC is that same area of the KC.)


Yours,
Avry
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ARTiFact: If you're listenting in, you noted this earlier:

</I><U>Language</U> ----------- <U>Consonants</U> ----------- <U>Name</U>

Hebrew ------------------ JHVH -------------- Jehovah

Aramaic ----------------- YHWH -------------- Yaweh

Egyptian ---------------- HWFW ------------ Khufu</I>

Freaky. Back of American One Dollar Bill: on the left {Great Pyramid symbol}, on the right {13 stars of origianl Union form 'Star of David' - Jewish symbol}

Hmmm.....

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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 343 Harry 19-Mar-02 17:48
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 331 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 17:50
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 310 Harry 19-Mar-02 17:52
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 253 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 17:56
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 331 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:00
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 297 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:04
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 296 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:08
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 372 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:12
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 333 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:59
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 345 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:01
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 288 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:05
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 280 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:06
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 309 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:10
And therein lies the end to the conversation. 274 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:19
Pz runs home to maat 317 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 20:18
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 333 Martin Stower 20-Mar-02 03:19
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 299 Vladislaw 19-Mar-02 23:35
One Overlooked Consideration... 318 ARTiFact 20-Mar-02 00:57
Re: One Overlooked Consideration... 377 Vladislaw 20-Mar-02 14:06
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 305 Martin Stower 20-Mar-02 03:13
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 282 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 16:36
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 265 Harry 20-Mar-02 17:48
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 287 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 18:12
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 320 Harry 20-Mar-02 18:17
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 272 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 18:22
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Give us paint testing 275 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 18:33
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 407 Martin Stower 19-Mar-17 20:25
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 254 Martin Stower 20-Mar-17 01:21
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 231 Thanos5150 19-Jun-17 13:31
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 249 Thanos5150 19-Jun-17 19:05
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 113 Warwick 20-Jun-17 17:13
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 217 Origyptian 20-Jun-17 18:52
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 127 Warwick 20-Jun-17 19:41
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 423 Martin Stower 20-Mar-17 00:34
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 350 Origyptian 20-Mar-17 00:44
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 233 Martin Stower 20-Mar-17 01:25
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 239 Audrey 20-Mar-17 00:45
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 325 Martin Stower 20-Mar-17 01:28
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 462 Warwick 20-Mar-17 14:20
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 371 Martin Stower 19-Mar-17 19:47
The Medium 244 Warwick 19-Mar-17 20:04
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 218 Ian Alex Blease 21-Mar-02 20:00
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 262 Frank D 22-Mar-02 01:29
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 239 Harry 22-Mar-02 01:38
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 133 Ian Alex Blease 22-Mar-02 16:32
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 174 Frank D 22-Mar-02 16:46
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 166 Frank D 22-Mar-02 16:48
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 145 Ian Alex Blease 22-Mar-02 18:09
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 254 Frank D 22-Mar-02 16:50
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 598 gulsbo 20-Jun-17 20:02
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 161 Tommi Huhtamaki 19-Mar-02 17:47
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 199 Harry 19-Mar-02 17:51
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 140 Tommi Huhtamaki 19-Mar-02 17:53
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 179 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 17:54
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 155 Harry 19-Mar-02 17:58
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 158 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:15
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 174 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:17
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 147 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:25
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 150 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:30
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 124 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:33
Here, I highly doubt you'll bother... 304 Pete Vanderzwet 20-Mar-02 12:31
Totally unconvincing 126 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 16:38
Re: Totally unconvincing 150 Harry 20-Mar-02 17:53
Re: Totally unconvincing 144 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 18:15
Re: Totally unconvincing 150 Harry 20-Mar-02 18:18
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Re: Totally unconvincing 167 Harry 20-Mar-02 18:33
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 147 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 17:49
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 143 Harry 19-Mar-02 17:55
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 138 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:01
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 147 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:04
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 140 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:21
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 155 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:35
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 149 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:39
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 153 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:43
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 150 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:45
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 141 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:53
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 148 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:55
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 148 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:57
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 143 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:00
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 142 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:01
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 156 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:03
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 173 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:08
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 143 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:14
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 151 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:29
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 139 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:50
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 145 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:54
Ortho admits defeat 127 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:56
Believe it if it makes you feel better. N/T 163 Pete Vanderzwet 19-Mar-02 20:00
Re: Believe it if it makes you feel better. N/T 138 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 20:05
Re: Believe it if it makes you feel better. N/T 143 Harry 20-Mar-02 11:22
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 151 Pete Vanderzwet 19-Mar-02 19:59
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 146 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 20:06
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 147 Martin Stower 20-Mar-02 01:57
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 152 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 17:46
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 154 Milo 19-Mar-02 17:58
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 139 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:01
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 128 Milo 19-Mar-02 18:04
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 126 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:09
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 148 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:08
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 152 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:09
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 136 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:29
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 166 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:40
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 157 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:47
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 153 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:54
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 152 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:56
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 137 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:59
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 156 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:02
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 133 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:04
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 124 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:09
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 160 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:17
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 139 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:33
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 153 lobo-hotei 19-Mar-02 19:43
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 152 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:58
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 120 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:49
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 158 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 20:04
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 127 Harry 20-Mar-02 11:24
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 140 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:00
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 142 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:34
KHUFU -- HWFW -- &quot;Holy Ancient One&quot; 179 ARTiFact 19-Mar-02 21:41
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 170 Martin Stower 20-Mar-02 02:35
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 150 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 16:41
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 138 Harry 20-Mar-02 17:54
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 144 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 18:17
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 135 Martin Stower 20-Mar-02 22:56
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 125 Martin Stower 20-Mar-02 22:48
Ian's Hypocrisy 174 Harry 21-Mar-02 12:38
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 117 Martin Stower 21-Mar-02 16:49
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 140 Ian Alex Blease 21-Mar-02 20:08
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 154 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 02:19
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 153 Ian Alex Blease 22-Mar-02 16:36
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 144 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 20:17
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 152 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 20:18
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 151 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 20:18
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 155 Ian Alex Blease 21-Mar-02 20:04
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 91 Harry 22-Mar-02 00:26
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 125 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 02:30
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 149 Ian Alex Blease 21-Mar-02 20:05
Ian's Hypocrisy Revisited 152 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 02:36
Ian admits his intellectual bankruptcy. 167 Martin Stower 20-Mar-02 22:58
Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 166 R Avry Wilson 20-Mar-02 06:22
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 125 opti-mystic 20-Mar-02 07:59
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 124 Harry 20-Mar-02 11:46
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 149 Harry 20-Mar-02 11:42
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 170 Vladislaw 20-Mar-02 14:46
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 162 Harry 20-Mar-02 14:52
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 158 Paul Mallon 20-Mar-02 19:46
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 156 Harry 20-Mar-02 20:03
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 149 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 20:04
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 160 Harry 20-Mar-02 20:06
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 166 Paul Mallon 20-Mar-02 20:37
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 129 Pete Vanderzwet 20-Mar-02 20:58
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 139 Paul Mallon 20-Mar-02 21:06
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 148 Paul Mallon 20-Mar-02 21:07
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 164 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 21:11
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 176 Pete Vanderzwet 20-Mar-02 21:24
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 154 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 21:27
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 178 Paul Mallon 21-Mar-02 09:16
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 176 Harry 21-Mar-02 12:41
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 139 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 20:37
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 274 Warwick 18-Jun-17 18:24
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 373 Merrell 18-Jun-17 21:53
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