Hi Peter,

Hope you're well. Didn't you and Ian have the exact same conversation awhile back? (*LOL*)

Anyways, I went through the thread and thought to do a compilation-type reply of some quotes. Here are some of the things you touched on and my comments:

<I>The Great Pyramid sits perfectly in line with the evolution of Egyptian pyramid building.</I>

Actually, their position on the time line of pyramid evolution is an anomoly. The Giza Three have geometric properties foreign to /\'s before and after. So, I don't agree with them being included in a natural evolution, however I <U>do</U> agree of the time they were built in relation to others. (<U>Evidence</U>: C14 dating; King Lists [multiple]; accounts by later scholars [Greek and other]).

<I>Khufu had to move the tomb of his mother from Dashour to Giza (beside his pyramid) for this very reason. Tomb robbing, even by Khufu's time, had become an epidimic.</I>

Not the best argument to explain why his 'mother' is at Giza, but a nice try. This is purely a guess. Plus, oh what folly it would be to usurp the deeds of robbers by moving a mother's burial place right next to the LARGEST darn monuments on earth. *lol* Yup... "Shhh... no one will notice there's a tomb here!"

<I>Pieces of the causeway were found with Khufu's cartouche on it. I forgot about that little piece of evidence, thanks for reminding me.</I>

True. This - I believe - was reported by Lehner (?). What would really help Ian's understanding (plus mine, yours, and everyone wanting to learn the answers) is if photo's of these could be shown instead of 'well this guy said'. I think that's all we're asking for.

<I>Name one shred of evidence suggesting it was built by someone other then Khufu.</I>

Fair posit, but that's not the point (from my perspective, anyway). 'Khufu' may just as easily have been someone involved in a larger project, or the name itself is a reference identity. Can I show a shred of evidence for this?Yes: please refer to upcoming articles in DE.

<I>Inscriptions in the GP would hurt the pyramid's attribution to Khufu.</I>

HHWhat? I think you made an honest typo there, Peter.:) If his name was plastered all over the inside I'm pretty sure there'd be no argument about who the sole owner was.

<I>[Ian]: "GP is as bare as old mother hubbards Cupboard"
So is every pyramid built before Unas. What's the big deal with the Great Pyramid?</I>

Not true. See: Djoser [Step Pyramid].

As for context, I can say that the ancient Egyptians were adamant about adding some kind of ornament to their burial sites and centers - indeed, they wrote names in early mastabas, and in practically every ground-based tomb in Egypt before, during, and after Giza - right up to the present. Why leave these few void? Did tomb robbers cut out the walls too, subsequently polishing them to machine-perfect glosses [Eg. KC]? Fine, there could have been plenty of time for every iota tokens removed, but inscriptions are another matter all together. That's being honest about the situation, Peter, and it's easier to admit we're all baffled instead of certain Egyptological historians pronouncing their version as the one and only true rendition.

<I>Evidence does not have emotion. It does not spiritually attach itself to theories.</I>

Agree 1 billion %. (Ian... I'm afraid this is reasonable considering we need to focus on tangible evidence - not feelings. I respect yours in regards to the ancients, but in this case there needs to be some honest balance about what is expected in the way arguing for or against a particular subject. Agreed?).

<I>I believe fragments were in the KC until recently, Ian.</I>

Yup. They were lying in the north-west corner untouched for some time. (<U>Evidence</U>: I've seen the drawings from the 19thcen, and modern photographs showing them. They were finally removed during the last scheduled cleaning of the GP's interior. I'm remain open to correction on this one, as I'm also thinking the fragments in the corner had to do with the tunnel excavated under the floor of the KC is that same area of the KC.)


Yours,
Avry
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ARTiFact: If you're listenting in, you noted this earlier:

</I><U>Language</U> ----------- <U>Consonants</U> ----------- <U>Name</U>

Hebrew ------------------ JHVH -------------- Jehovah

Aramaic ----------------- YHWH -------------- Yaweh

Egyptian ---------------- HWFW ------------ Khufu</I>

Freaky. Back of American One Dollar Bill: on the left {Great Pyramid symbol}, on the right {13 stars of origianl Union form 'Star of David' - Jewish symbol}

Hmmm.....