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Audrey wrote:
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> Merrell wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > Origyptian wrote:
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > The sample would need to be of sufficient size for
> > the lab to be able to carry out the relevant
> > analysis.
> >
> > But no such investigation is necessary, anyway.
> >
> > > The more we see revelations of tenuous conclusions
> > > that were drawn by early investigators and
> > > "historians", the more we would expect
> > > Egyptologists to want to get to the real answers.
> >
> > They've got the real answers already.
> >
> > Over past centuries, using various different
> > methodologies, Egyptian archaeologists have
> > gradually established more and more about AE
> > chronology, and AE historical context - including
> > that of the GP.
> >
> > Consequently, Egyptian archaeologists do not need
> > to make unnecessary and possibly damaging
> > investigations.
>
> An attitude that has prevailed since the
> translation of Manetho to English. And it was most
> definitely in place before the advent of carbon
> dating.

What on earth has the translation of Manetho got to do with archaeology, never mind radiocarbon dating⸮—and what attitude⸮ Avoiding destructive investigations⸮ Yeah, sure, Audrey, we see it perfectly exemplified in Vyse blowing holes in things.

So, what do we get, apparently in support of this contention⸮ Material which is all from after the advent of radiocarbon dating, starting with an extract from the paper ‘Radiocarbon Dating and Egyptian Chronology—From the “Curve of Knowns” to Bayesian Modeling’, by Felix Höflmayer. Let’s have the link for that:

http://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199935413.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780199935413-e-64

The extract being part of a historical survey, citing for the quote emphasised by Audrey a paper of 1970 (Säve-Söderbergh and Olsson).

Then we get a selection of letters from the Velikovsky Archive, dates omitted, although we can tell from internal evidence that the first one quoted dates to January 29th, 1973—and of course, those to Velikovsky himself likely predate his death in 1979.

The remaining dates, as given in the archive versions, are April 19, 1973, January 21, 1955, 11th August, 1960, September 29, 1960.

And this concoction is served up as evidence of the state of play in 2017.

Charlatanism.

Next we have some material from Beta Analytic Laboratories, which has appeared in various places on the Web, then disappeared from them. It’s not clear where Audrey got it from, as her order differs from that of the original, which is here:

http://www.radiocarbon.com/archaeology.htm

Page title is “Radiocarbon Dating and Archaeology - Beta Analytic” and as indicated, the page concerns archaeology in general, not Egyptian archaeology or “Egyptology”, neither of which is mentioned. This is the only material cited which could properly be called contemporary.

Finally, we have a paper of 1991, “Radiocarbon Dating and Icelandic Archaeology” by Vilhjdlmur örn Vilhjrilmsson:

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=%22radiocarbon+dating+and+icelandic+archaeology%22

Yes, that’s right, Icelandic archaeology. Nowhere does the paper mention Egypt, even for comparison.

> This attitude extends to the OK as well.
> Exasperation gives way to disbelief. Tell me it
> isn't so. That in this day and age, Egyptology is
> still functioning as a closed minded elite circle,
> that doesn't need no stinkin' science.

Asserted on the basis of material which dates from no later than 1973, where relevant at all to the claim being made.

Very scientific.

> Should I express my exasperation or disbelief as
> hostility towards others? . . .

No, you should go and do some reading, take a course, get a clue.

M.

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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 203 Harry 22-Mar-02 01:38
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 96 Ian Alex Blease 22-Mar-02 16:32
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 134 Frank D 22-Mar-02 16:46
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 124 Frank D 22-Mar-02 16:48
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 126 Ian Alex Blease 22-Mar-02 18:09
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 99 Tommi Huhtamaki 19-Mar-02 17:53
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 136 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 17:54
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 129 Harry 19-Mar-02 17:58
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 125 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:15
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 138 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:17
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 117 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:25
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 114 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:30
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Here, I highly doubt you'll bother... 261 Pete Vanderzwet 20-Mar-02 12:31
Totally unconvincing 94 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 16:38
Re: Totally unconvincing 118 Harry 20-Mar-02 17:53
Re: Totally unconvincing 125 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 18:15
Re: Totally unconvincing 116 Harry 20-Mar-02 18:18
Re: Totally unconvincing 134 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 18:29
Re: Totally unconvincing 134 Harry 20-Mar-02 18:33
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 107 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:01
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 122 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:04
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 116 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:39
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 120 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:43
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 103 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:45
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 110 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:53
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 119 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:55
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 116 Harry 19-Mar-02 18:57
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 107 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:00
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 99 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:01
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 133 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:03
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 130 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:08
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 109 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:14
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 119 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:29
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 108 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:50
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 113 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:54
Ortho admits defeat 94 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:56
Believe it if it makes you feel better. N/T 129 Pete Vanderzwet 19-Mar-02 20:00
Re: Believe it if it makes you feel better. N/T 105 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 20:05
Re: Believe it if it makes you feel better. N/T 109 Harry 20-Mar-02 11:22
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 129 Pete Vanderzwet 19-Mar-02 19:59
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 113 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 20:06
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 119 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 17:46
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 114 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:29
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 119 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 18:56
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 121 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:02
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 110 Harry 19-Mar-02 19:04
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 90 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:09
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 130 lobo-hotei 19-Mar-02 19:43
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 119 Ian Alex Blease 19-Mar-02 19:58
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KHUFU -- HWFW -- "Holy Ancient One" 148 ARTiFact 19-Mar-02 21:41
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 119 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 16:41
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 109 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 18:17
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 101 Martin Stower 20-Mar-02 22:56
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Ian's Hypocrisy 140 Harry 21-Mar-02 12:38
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 93 Martin Stower 21-Mar-02 16:49
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 109 Ian Alex Blease 21-Mar-02 20:08
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 124 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 02:19
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 114 Ian Alex Blease 22-Mar-02 16:36
Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 120 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 20:17
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Re: Ian's Hypocrisy 118 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 20:18
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 64 Harry 22-Mar-02 00:26
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 91 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 02:30
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 115 Ian Alex Blease 21-Mar-02 20:05
Ian's Hypocrisy Revisited 129 Martin Stower 22-Mar-02 02:36
Ian admits his intellectual bankruptcy. 128 Martin Stower 20-Mar-02 22:58
Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 133 R Avry Wilson 20-Mar-02 06:22
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 103 opti-mystic 20-Mar-02 07:59
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 91 Harry 20-Mar-02 11:46
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 114 Harry 20-Mar-02 11:42
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 139 Vladislaw 20-Mar-02 14:46
Re: Peter... a few comments? Ian, you too. 130 Harry 20-Mar-02 14:52
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 145 Paul Mallon 20-Mar-02 20:37
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 97 Pete Vanderzwet 20-Mar-02 20:58
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 116 Paul Mallon 20-Mar-02 21:06
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 111 Paul Mallon 20-Mar-02 21:07
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 131 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 21:11
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 141 Pete Vanderzwet 20-Mar-02 21:24
Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 123 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 21:27
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Re: Orthos Hypocrisy 117 Ian Alex Blease 20-Mar-02 20:37
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