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DScribr wrote:
> Jon Ellison wrote:
>
> > Thanos5150 wrote:
> >
> > > Hello DScribr,
> > >
> > > DScribr wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi T, you've also summed it up very well.
> > > >
> > > > He's not fooling anyone, but thinks he is, and he
> > continues
> > > on
> > > > w/ the Status Quo, willfully ignorant of all, and without
> > a
> > > > thought given to the real issues we have w/ him, or of
> > even
> > > > considering changing his forum conduct.
> > > >
> > > > (Not the first time he's misquoted a source
> > > either...dishonesty
> > > > and forgery, all in one sentence.)
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm afraid we have only ourselves to blame at this point.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ***
> > What are the "real issues" you have with him, and why would
> you
> > want to change his forum conduct.?????????????
> >
> > WHAT and WHY?????????????
> >
>
>
>
>
> > Is it because he has the audacity to disagree with you.?????
> >
> > Would you prefer that all posters agree with your
> viewpoint???
> >
> > Do you have a problem with those that disagree with you on a
> > discussion forum???
> >
> >
> > You are totally blameless. You have no control whatsoever
> over
> > others posts and opinions.
> > You may like to have control over the publication of others
> > opinions, but you don't, get over it.
> >
>
> >
> > Post Edited (27-Jun-15 16:23)
>
> ***
> Your asking this question shows to all that you, (and Ori) are
> extremely lacking in moral values and scruples, esp. regarding
> telling the truth, and apparently you both couldn't care less
> about conducting yourselves in a responsible manner here on
> this forum.
>
> This issue goes far beyond a disagreement between 2, or more,
> ppl....and has much to do w/ honesty and fair play.
>
> Quoting JE, "However, please refrain from accusing others of
> lying or ignorance when they are simply offering up their
> opinion and observations. Even if that opinion is in opposition
> to your belief system. Their knowledge base may differ from
> yours, but is not necessarily less extensive.
> There are no truths and therefore there can be no lies. All
> there can be are opinions based upon observations. "Seeing"."
>
> You won't admit to it, but you both are doing much more than,
> "simply offering up your opinion and observations."
> Quit LYING, and ppl won't call you a "LIAR" JE, it's that
> simple...Opinions can be given without lying. (Helpful Hint:
> Fact-based opinions are usually more well-received.)
>
> Your last sentence IS total BS. There ARE indisputable facts,
> BUT, you both have NO problem disputing them day in, and day
> out, as you dismiss/disregard any and ALL valid evidence that
> others provide simply because YOU don't agree w/ it.
>
> All the while you refuse to offer ANY valid evidence to counter
> these facts, and you both usually deny ever making ANY claims
> later on. Ori stated the roof blocks in C's Chamber are NOT
> Tura Limestone, but he offers NO valid evidence, and NO proof
> whatsoever to support his false statement, and he never will.
> (Want mainstream to believe that they are NOT Tura Limestone???
> PROVE IT TO THEM.)
>
> Apparently, you both believe that the entire world should hold
> everything, 'Stop-The-Presses' and wait patiently while you
> both 're-evaluate', and then give your 'learned' opinion(s).
> You can 're-evaluate' indisputable facts ALL you like, BUT,
> these facts remain unchanged....REGARDLESS of how many times
> you insist otherwise.
>
> IF someone provides proof that some one else IS wrong, the
> person who IS wrong SHOULD CONCEDE the point IN WRITING. Not
> doing so IS poor forum conduct.
>
> So, since you both have NO factual evidence, ETC. you resort to
> false and misleading statements, diversionary and deflective
> tactics, and vain attempts at irrelevant and unnecessary
> over-complication of a given issue, (thermionic molecular
> agitation, see below).
> Quoting JE, "JE believes that the AE didn't know what air was."
>
>
>
> Your WORST fault is your constant LAME attempts to twist ppl's
> words and meanings here.....It's OBVIOUS to most of us here
> that the quote function works very well, and can easily be
> utilized to show exactly what WAS said, etc. and shows how
> pitifully weak your argument IS. (THIS is the ONLY forum where
> ppl have tried this w/ me.)
>
> You told your biggest LIE ever today by stating that you and
> Ori don't have an agenda. It's obvious to ALL readers here that
> you DO have an agenda.
>
> Quit lying and ppl won't call you a "LIAR".
>
>
>
>
> Now, plz answer your own question, WHY change???
>
>
>
> ************************************************
> FROM Air Shafts Thread: Author: Jon Ellison (82.24.228.---)
> Date: 12-Jun-15 18:40
>
> DScribr wrote:
>
>
> >
> > For some absurd reason, JE apparently believes that the 4th
> > Dynasty AE couldn't possibly have known that hot air rises!!!
> > They were NOT stinky-footed bumpkins; they knew hot air
> rises,
> > and they knew enough about HVAC to plan, design, engineer,
> and
> > build the air shafts in the GP. (I guess the AE knowing hot
> air
> > rises somehow endangers the 'validity' of his crack-pot Long
> > Lost Advanced Civilization, (LLAC) 'Theory'.)
>
> Yes the "absurd reason" why JE believes that the AE could not
> have known that hot air rises is that JE does not believe that
> the AE understood the principles behind thermionic molecular
> agitation, JE also believes that the AE were not aware of how
> expansion related to mass could reduce the density of a given
> volume of air.
> JE also believes that the AE didn't even know what air was, or
> what it was composed of.
>
> JE does believe that the laws underpinning thermodynamics were
> not understood until the 19th and 19th centuries.
>
> Of course Willie Herd believes that the 4th AE had the
> experimental apparatus that enabled them to observe an
> invisible gas and record its behavior .. A truly advanced
> civilisation whose high technology has been lost to time ..
>
> Never heard so much bunkum in my life.
>
> JE
>
> Post Edited (12-Jun-15 18:45)
QUOTED and NOTED...
>
Post Edited (30-Jun-15 22:54)
> Jon Ellison wrote:
>
> > Thanos5150 wrote:
> >
> > > Hello DScribr,
> > >
> > > DScribr wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi T, you've also summed it up very well.
> > > >
> > > > He's not fooling anyone, but thinks he is, and he
> > continues
> > > on
> > > > w/ the Status Quo, willfully ignorant of all, and without
> > a
> > > > thought given to the real issues we have w/ him, or of
> > even
> > > > considering changing his forum conduct.
> > > >
> > > > (Not the first time he's misquoted a source
> > > either...dishonesty
> > > > and forgery, all in one sentence.)
> > >
> > >
> > >Quote
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again
> > and
> > > expecting different results.
> > > Albert Einstein
> > > I'm afraid we have only ourselves to blame at this point.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ***
> > What are the "real issues" you have with him, and why would
> you
> > want to change his forum conduct.?????????????
> >
> > WHAT and WHY?????????????
> >
>
>
>
>
> > Is it because he has the audacity to disagree with you.?????
> >
> > Would you prefer that all posters agree with your
> viewpoint???
> >
> > Do you have a problem with those that disagree with you on a
> > discussion forum???
> >
> >
> > You are totally blameless. You have no control whatsoever
> over
> > others posts and opinions.
> > You may like to have control over the publication of others
> > opinions, but you don't, get over it.
> >
>
> >
> > Post Edited (27-Jun-15 16:23)
>
> ***
> Your asking this question shows to all that you, (and Ori) are
> extremely lacking in moral values and scruples, esp. regarding
> telling the truth, and apparently you both couldn't care less
> about conducting yourselves in a responsible manner here on
> this forum.
>
> This issue goes far beyond a disagreement between 2, or more,
> ppl....and has much to do w/ honesty and fair play.
>
> Quoting JE, "However, please refrain from accusing others of
> lying or ignorance when they are simply offering up their
> opinion and observations. Even if that opinion is in opposition
> to your belief system. Their knowledge base may differ from
> yours, but is not necessarily less extensive.
> There are no truths and therefore there can be no lies. All
> there can be are opinions based upon observations. "Seeing"."
>
> You won't admit to it, but you both are doing much more than,
> "simply offering up your opinion and observations."
> Quit LYING, and ppl won't call you a "LIAR" JE, it's that
> simple...Opinions can be given without lying. (Helpful Hint:
> Fact-based opinions are usually more well-received.)
>
> Your last sentence IS total BS. There ARE indisputable facts,
> BUT, you both have NO problem disputing them day in, and day
> out, as you dismiss/disregard any and ALL valid evidence that
> others provide simply because YOU don't agree w/ it.
>
> All the while you refuse to offer ANY valid evidence to counter
> these facts, and you both usually deny ever making ANY claims
> later on. Ori stated the roof blocks in C's Chamber are NOT
> Tura Limestone, but he offers NO valid evidence, and NO proof
> whatsoever to support his false statement, and he never will.
> (Want mainstream to believe that they are NOT Tura Limestone???
> PROVE IT TO THEM.)
>
> Apparently, you both believe that the entire world should hold
> everything, 'Stop-The-Presses' and wait patiently while you
> both 're-evaluate', and then give your 'learned' opinion(s).
> You can 're-evaluate' indisputable facts ALL you like, BUT,
> these facts remain unchanged....REGARDLESS of how many times
> you insist otherwise.
>
> IF someone provides proof that some one else IS wrong, the
> person who IS wrong SHOULD CONCEDE the point IN WRITING. Not
> doing so IS poor forum conduct.
>
> So, since you both have NO factual evidence, ETC. you resort to
> false and misleading statements, diversionary and deflective
> tactics, and vain attempts at irrelevant and unnecessary
> over-complication of a given issue, (thermionic molecular
> agitation, see below).
> Quoting JE, "JE believes that the AE didn't know what air was."
>
>
>
> Your WORST fault is your constant LAME attempts to twist ppl's
> words and meanings here.....It's OBVIOUS to most of us here
> that the quote function works very well, and can easily be
> utilized to show exactly what WAS said, etc. and shows how
> pitifully weak your argument IS. (THIS is the ONLY forum where
> ppl have tried this w/ me.)
>
> You told your biggest LIE ever today by stating that you and
> Ori don't have an agenda. It's obvious to ALL readers here that
> you DO have an agenda.
>
> Quit lying and ppl won't call you a "LIAR".
>
>
>
>
> Now, plz answer your own question, WHY change???
>
>
>
> ************************************************
> FROM Air Shafts Thread: Author: Jon Ellison (82.24.228.---)
> Date: 12-Jun-15 18:40
>
> DScribr wrote:
>
>
> >
> > For some absurd reason, JE apparently believes that the 4th
> > Dynasty AE couldn't possibly have known that hot air rises!!!
> > They were NOT stinky-footed bumpkins; they knew hot air
> rises,
> > and they knew enough about HVAC to plan, design, engineer,
> and
> > build the air shafts in the GP. (I guess the AE knowing hot
> air
> > rises somehow endangers the 'validity' of his crack-pot Long
> > Lost Advanced Civilization, (LLAC) 'Theory'.)
>
> Yes the "absurd reason" why JE believes that the AE could not
> have known that hot air rises is that JE does not believe that
> the AE understood the principles behind thermionic molecular
> agitation, JE also believes that the AE were not aware of how
> expansion related to mass could reduce the density of a given
> volume of air.
> JE also believes that the AE didn't even know what air was, or
> what it was composed of.
>
> JE does believe that the laws underpinning thermodynamics were
> not understood until the 19th and 19th centuries.
>
> Of course Willie Herd believes that the 4th AE had the
> experimental apparatus that enabled them to observe an
> invisible gas and record its behavior .. A truly advanced
> civilisation whose high technology has been lost to time ..
>
> Never heard so much bunkum in my life.
>
> JE
>
> Post Edited (12-Jun-15 18:45)
QUOTED and NOTED...
>
Post Edited (30-Jun-15 22:54)
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