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Jon Ellison wrote:

> Thanos5150 wrote:
>
> > Hello DScribr,
> >
> > DScribr wrote:
> >
> > > Hi T, you've also summed it up very well.
> > >
> > > He's not fooling anyone, but thinks he is, and he
> continues
> > on
> > > w/ the Status Quo, willfully ignorant of all, and without
> a
> > > thought given to the real issues we have w/ him, or of
> even
> > > considering changing his forum conduct.
> > >
> > > (Not the first time he's misquoted a source
> > either...dishonesty
> > > and forgery, all in one sentence.)
> >
> >
Quote

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again
> and
> > expecting different results.
> > Albert Einstein
> >
> > I'm afraid we have only ourselves to blame at this point.
>
>
>
>

***
> What are the "real issues" you have with him, and why would you
> want to change his forum conduct.?????????????
>
> WHAT and WHY?????????????
>




> Is it because he has the audacity to disagree with you.?????
>
> Would you prefer that all posters agree with your viewpoint???
>
> Do you have a problem with those that disagree with you on a
> discussion forum???
>
>
> You are totally blameless. You have no control whatsoever over
> others posts and opinions.
> You may like to have control over the publication of others
> opinions, but you don't, get over it.
>

>
> Post Edited (27-Jun-15 16:23)

***
Your asking this question shows to all that you, (and Ori) are extremely lacking in moral values and scruples, esp. regarding telling the truth, and apparently you both couldn't care less about conducting yourselves in a responsible manner here on this forum.

This issue goes far beyond a disagreement between 2, or more, ppl....and has much to do w/ honesty and fair play.

Quoting JE, "However, please refrain from accusing others of lying or ignorance when they are simply offering up their opinion and observations. Even if that opinion is in opposition to your belief system. Their knowledge base may differ from yours, but is not necessarily less extensive.
There are no truths and therefore there can be no lies. All there can be are opinions based upon observations. "Seeing"."

You won't admit to it, but you both are doing much more than, "simply offering up your opinion and observations."
Quit LYING, and ppl won't call you a "LIAR" JE, it's that simple...Opinions can be given without lying. (Helpful Hint: Fact-based opinions are usually more well-received.)

Your last sentence IS total BS. There ARE indisputable facts, BUT, you both have NO problem disputing them day in, and day out, as you dismiss/disregard any and ALL valid evidence that others provide simply because YOU don't agree w/ it.

All the while you refuse to offer ANY valid evidence to counter these facts, and you both usually deny ever making ANY claims later on. Ori stated the roof blocks in C's Chamber are NOT Tura Limestone, but he offers NO valid evidence, and NO proof whatsoever to support his false statement, and he never will. (Want mainstream to believe that they are NOT Tura Limestone??? PROVE IT TO THEM.)

Apparently, you both believe that the entire world should hold everything, 'Stop-The-Presses' and wait patiently while you both 're-evaluate', and then give your 'learned' opinion(s). You can 're-evaluate' indisputable facts ALL you like, BUT, these facts remain unchanged....REGARDLESS of how many times you insist otherwise.

IF someone provides proof that some one else IS wrong, the person who IS wrong SHOULD CONCEDE the point IN WRITING. Not doing so IS poor forum conduct.

So, since you both have NO factual evidence, ETC. you resort to false and misleading statements, diversionary and deflective tactics, and vain attempts at irrelevant and unnecessary over-complication of a given issue, (thermionic molecular agitation, see below).
Quoting JE, "JE believes that the AE didn't know what air was."



Your WORST fault is your constant LAME attempts to twist ppl's words and meanings here.....It's OBVIOUS to most of us here that the quote function works very well, and can easily be utilized to show exactly what WAS said, etc. and shows how pitifully weak your argument IS. (THIS is the ONLY forum where ppl have tried this w/ me.)

You told your biggest LIE ever today by stating that you and Ori don't have an agenda. It's obvious to ALL readers here that you DO have an agenda.

Quit lying and ppl won't call you a "LIAR".




Now, plz answer your own question, WHY change???



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FROM Air Shafts Thread: Author: Jon Ellison (82.24.228.---)
Date: 12-Jun-15 18:40

DScribr wrote:


>
> For some absurd reason, JE apparently believes that the 4th
> Dynasty AE couldn't possibly have known that hot air rises!!!
> They were NOT stinky-footed bumpkins; they knew hot air rises,
> and they knew enough about HVAC to plan, design, engineer, and
> build the air shafts in the GP. (I guess the AE knowing hot air
> rises somehow endangers the 'validity' of his crack-pot Long
> Lost Advanced Civilization, (LLAC) 'Theory'.)

Yes the "absurd reason" why JE believes that the AE could not have known that hot air rises is that JE does not believe that the AE understood the principles behind thermionic molecular agitation, JE also believes that the AE were not aware of how expansion related to mass could reduce the density of a given volume of air.
JE also believes that the AE didn't even know what air was, or what it was composed of.

JE does believe that the laws underpinning thermodynamics were not understood until the 19th and 19th centuries.

Of course Willie Herd believes that the 4th AE had the experimental apparatus that enabled them to observe an invisible gas and record its behavior .. A truly advanced civilisation whose high technology has been lost to time ..

Never heard so much bunkum in my life.

JE

Post Edited (12-Jun-15 18:45)



Currently accepted Pyramide dates stand until proven otherwise.
Campbell's Chamber roof blocks are Tura Limestone until proven otherwise.
THE Cartouche in Campbell's Chamber IS Authentic, as are ALL other RC's Glyphs, until proven otherwise.


"This Forgery 'theory' has more holes than a sieve basket."

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