> More likely tens of thousands of years and homo
You'll have to take that up with your fiend. He has offered these other possibilities, not me. Unlike some I try not and make assumptions of other's opinions and put words in their mouth based on my understanding of the popularly accepted opinions of others.
> Although another species is possible and
> millions of years,
> Stone artifacts have a life of tens if not
> hundreds of millions of years. Everything else
> would be totally deleted in a few tens of
> thousands of years.
It is strange to think one could live to adulthood and have such a deeply ignorant and easily falsifiable perception of reality. So what you are saying is that there would be no evidence of the existence of "human", let's go with that one for now, activity prior to your minimum of 20,000yrs? This conversation was had before, which I think you were a part of, in which I showed a range of numerous examples of the very opposite just within the period of 20,000-50,000yrs. And by comparison these would be primitive cultures compared to the LC (lost civilization) not to mention drastically smaller populations.
And again, these are but a few examples of such things, not the end all be all. If one needs futher clarification, again, make an effort to educate yourself.
AGAIN c. 25,000BC:
DOLNI VINCI JEWELLERY, POTTERY, TOOLS AND OTHER ARTIFACTS
Even evidence of woven fabric was found:
See how even though you don't actually find the fabric you find evidence of it nonetheless? Archeology is often like that.
What I do not understand is how the same conversations can be had with the same people so often. Ignorant opinions are given by a select few which much information is provided that clearly shows it to be incorrect. Equally ignorant and pedantic counter arguments immediately follow which those too are squashed with more information yet sometime later the same ignorant opinions are offered again as if none of it ever happened. This says one of three things-either the offenders have a mental deficiency of some kind and are incapable of retaining information that does not fit their belief system or are just plain dishonest, or both.
> No tools, no surviving
> technology. Perfect sanitization.
> No need to clean up, no artificial artifact would
> survive. Time and nature.
See above. According to fresh thinking, apparently, this LC did not bury or cremate their dead, make fire, wear clothes, butcher or cook food, write or have art, make dwellings or fill those dwelling with stuff. And also unlike their primitive contemporaries, they apparently ate and killed their food with their hands (as they had no weapons) and drank their liquids (water or blood as they did not make any beverages) right from the source never having occurred to them to make things to contain them either for short or long term storage, say like pots, bowls, cups, vases, ect. On and on it goes.
And no, time and nature are not the linear magic elixir to make artificial things magically "turn to dust" as you claim which ironically we would still find that "dust". Where this occurs i.e. which climates and conditions, was the artifact buried and under what conditions, ect ect are what further determines an artifacts rate of decay.
> Only the hard stone and megalithic structures and
> possibly remnants. Nature given time is perfectly
> capable of wiping everything else clean.
So you keep repeating over and over again.
> would be no need for any following civilization to
> wipe clean clean any cultural or technological
> material. It simply wouldn't survive. Only the
Again, tell that to your friend as this was his idea. Sounds like you two have some things to work out.
> We would therefore expect to only find stone
> artifacts and not the tools and technology that
> produced them.
> Which is pretty much the case.
No, this is not only what I or any other reasonable person would expect to find.
> later civilizations could put to good use and
> possibly inspire them to try to replicate what
> they had found. City building, giving rise to yet
> more civilizations.
Like the Greeks and Romans did with the ancient Egyptians?
> All you had to do was ask.
> Being conservative, twenty to thirty thousand
> years should do it, no problem.
> Any metal or man made material, especially ferrous
> would stand no chance.
> Leaving us the product (stones) but not the means
> by which they were produced (tools).
> Which is pretty much the case.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12-Apr-16 19:58 by Thanos5150.