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Steve Clayton wrote:

> We are much smarter now, than generally anyone in the past.
> They just worked with the (art) process, and we do not today.
> It only required (1) one individual to show and convince others
> the Funicular system would work. The entire society did not
> need to be informed, as they were not important to the process.
>
>
> I'll bet the majority of Egyptians when viewing the Funicular
> thought is was magic, just as people who once viewed Thomas
> Edison's electric lights and electricity did.

I believe what you say here is falacious on several levels and is key to the reason people can't understand the cultural context in which the reality of the pyramids exists. The reality isn't so simple as the widespread believe that the ancients were superstitious so they must have used ramps. The main stumbling block is that concept that modern people are "smart". We have this belief because we see what we know and much of what we see in a manifestation of the cleverness of individuals who have created human progress as technology.

In reality there is no such thing as "intelligence". It is a confusion generated by modern language and the observation that some individuals display more cleverness than others. But when we try to analyze the nature of the cleverness we instead see the symptoms of it and attempt to measure the symptoms.

In reality "cleverness" is just the ability to properly and quickly process data in the brain. ALL animals display this. Humans are not so much more able to process information quickly than other animals, we merely have more data to process because complex language has resulted in human progress; the ability to build on previous generations. We stand on the shoulders of giants and it is language that holds us firmly in place on our lofty perches. None of these giamnnt was any more "intelligent" than we are. All could display the cleverness which is the result of making a new connection and seeing what others hadn't. ALL individual animals display cleverness from time to time but there is no intelligence per se.

If the question is whether ancient people were more clever than modern people I'd have to guess that the ancients win hands down. While the difference might not be extreme, if I'm right about language, then their "effective intelligence" was far greater than modern people. I'd guess the average Egyptian would make fewer misstatements about nature than the average college science graduate. An Egyptian would not misapply his knowledge because he thought in language just as we do and his thought didn't allow misapplication of scientific knowlkedge; it would have broken grammatical rules. This also allowed him to focus all his knowledge on a subject and since communication was "perfect" allowed him to collaborate with others to seek an answer.

It is apparent that EVERY pyramid worker was charged with observing the process and trying to solve problems and invent more efficient methods. It is this which allowed the 45 fold increase in the amount of work between the first and last great pyramid. Jobs were awarded by lottery to the hometowns of the individuals who had invented previous improvements. The town which was home to an individual where a "phenomenon" had been invented forever became associated with that phenomenon. The individual who thought of adding natron to the water supply was from "Chemis" and ever since those who study the intreractions of molecules have been called "chemists". The individuals who could predict chemical reactions were called "prophets" and those who worked on the great pyramids were all from Chemis as a tribute to the original observer (seer).

We simply aren't "intelligent" at all. One might straion credulity to say the pyramid builders were intelligent but by our definitions the smartest had an IQ of about 60. He could think rings around most scientists today but he had an IQ of a blithering idiot. He had far less knowledge of technology and many areas of modern science.

This is the kind of post that gets me in trouble because people don't comprehend it. But if I don't say it once in a while they might never "get it". People think they're smart but I've never met one. I've known people who are remarkably clever and who can process information like the wind but I've never met anyone who displays "intelligence".



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Mankind: The Story of All of Us 406 Steve Clayton 28-Jan-15 20:34
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 225 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Jan-15 21:23
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 133 cladking 28-Jan-15 22:19
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 156 Steve Clayton 28-Jan-15 22:29
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 143 cladking 28-Jan-15 22:42
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 142 Steve Clayton 28-Jan-15 22:57
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 172 k_mand 30-Jan-15 22:29
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 226 cladking 31-Jan-15 01:35
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 134 Steve Clayton 31-Jan-15 04:16
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 156 Steve Clayton 28-Jan-15 22:35
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 241 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Jan-15 23:21
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 173 cladking 29-Jan-15 02:28
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 182 Corpuscles 29-Jan-15 03:04
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 139 Eddie Larry 29-Jan-15 03:17
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 184 Steve Clayton 29-Jan-15 15:41
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 148 cladking 29-Jan-15 16:15
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 167 Steve Clayton 29-Jan-15 17:45
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 193 Steve Clayton 29-Jan-15 19:53
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 166 cladking 29-Jan-15 20:01
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 172 Steve Clayton 29-Jan-15 20:44
Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 176 cladking 29-Jan-15 22:10
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 179 Steve Clayton 30-Jan-15 14:36
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 226 cladking 30-Jan-15 15:21
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 141 Steve Clayton 30-Jan-15 16:52
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 242 cladking 30-Jan-15 18:51
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 150 Steve Clayton 30-Jan-15 19:00
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 187 cladking 30-Jan-15 19:21
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 176 Steve Clayton 30-Jan-15 19:25
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 185 cladking 30-Jan-15 19:11
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 165 Steve Clayton 30-Jan-15 21:10
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 161 Steve Clayton 30-Jan-15 23:06
Re: Just open your eyes and realize the way it's always been. 169 cladking 31-Jan-15 01:22
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 195 Sandru 30-Jan-15 16:32
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 137 Steve Clayton 30-Jan-15 17:15
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 202 Sandru 31-Jan-15 05:02
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 159 Steve Clayton 31-Jan-15 11:19
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 146 Sandru 01-Feb-15 16:23
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 155 Steve Clayton 01-Feb-15 22:07
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 133 Sandru 02-Feb-15 16:52
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 162 Steve Clayton 02-Feb-15 18:14
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 116 cladking 02-Feb-15 19:19
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 138 Steve Clayton 02-Feb-15 19:33
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 170 cladking 02-Feb-15 19:36
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 218 Steve Clayton 02-Feb-15 19:51
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 260 Sandru 07-Feb-15 00:16
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 145 Steve Clayton 07-Feb-15 01:23
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 126 k_mand 30-Jan-15 22:40
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 149 cladking 30-Jan-15 23:02
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 167 k_mand 31-Jan-15 13:06
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 179 Steve Clayton 31-Jan-15 13:53
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 107 cladking 31-Jan-15 14:33
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 190 Steve Clayton 31-Jan-15 15:07
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 226 cladking 31-Jan-15 15:19
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 210 Steve Clayton 31-Jan-15 15:37
Re: Mankind: The Story of All of Us 152 cladking 31-Jan-15 16:11


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