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Thanos5150 wrote:

> > LIkewise, it's not clear when the Khufu Stela was engraved.
> > It's only clear that the stone is gneiss and could have
> > originated from that area, and was likely not standing in the
> > position Engelbach found it for the past 4500 years.
>
> I agree with this, but I see no reason it couldn't be from the
> 4th Dynasty either. At any point in time someone could have
> come across the stele in the rubble and thought it would be
> cool to prop it up there. Assuming it was not made by
> antiquarian forgers, a question to ask if not from the 4th
> Dynasty then why would it be there at all? What would possess
> someone say in the MK to engrave Khufu's name on it or even
> worse bring it already carved to that location?

As you said, the Khufu Stele "could" be form the 4th Dynasty...but we do not know that for sure. It "could" just as easily be a fragment from a more ancient block. It could have been put there by a few kids as a prop for their role playing game. Can we really say beyond a reasonable doubt?

A 4th Dynasty provenance for that Stele must consider its composition and whether the 4th Dynasty had the tools and methods to work such a stone. The extremely shallow engraving suggests that whoever did the engraving did not have the proper tools to make a deeper cut and, instead, perhaps used a piece of flint or basalt shard lying around to brute force the surface sketch. Also, is that stone a fragment from a larger finished block? The engravings appear to be on a flat planar surface. If so, what technology was required to make such a cut block.

Regarding why anyone in the Middle Kingdom (or any other period) would engrave a reference to "Khufu", perhaps for the same reason anyone would write a book about Winston Churchill, Ghengis Khan, or Santa Claus today? Why would parents today buy a swing set designed with a castle theme? It's fair to assume that later periods knew of "Khufu", had their own history and belief system surrounding Khufu, and reproduced histories, games, stories about Khufu for their children, etc. There is certainly no reason at all to believe that every single cartouche that references Khufu necessarily has a provenance back to the time when a man named Khufu was alive and well. As I said elsewhere in this discussion, a father might have made that as part of his storytelling to his children. Who can say for sure without definitive evidence?


> > From what I've gleaned from posts in this discussion, there is
> > not enough data to reliably assign provenance to the quarry,
> > the Khafre statue, or the Khufu Stela.
>
> Its a particular kind of gneiss though. The answer to this
> question is geologically could it have come from
> somewhere else.

I actually was corrected by Dr. Trog; we apparently do not know for sure whether the Stele is gneiss. It looks more like basalt but I've not actually read anything that indicates this has been determined. sfbey claims that Shaw says it's basalt, but I cannot access the article.


> > If anything, the
> > scarcity of artifacts in the quarry dating it at least across a
> > several millennia of the dynastic period, and the out of
> > character engraving on the Khafre gneiss, and the unlikely
> > positioning of the Khufu Stela, all cast a strong doubt on
> > their alleged provenance.
>
> But there are artifacts representing this whole time period,
> regardless of how scant, implying it was used throughout this
> time. Khufu's name is found as far afield as Byblos among
> others so finding it at an AE gneiss quarry shouldn't be all
> that mysterious. The positioning of the stele doesn't mean it
> wasn't from there just that it is unlikely that was its
> original position. The Khafre engraving isn't out of character
> as on many statues from this period and later you find this
> kind of work. The quality of working in raised relief doesn't
> seem to translate well with engravings on some kinds of stone.

Since the Khafre statue has plenty of precision reliefs, there's no reason to believe that the commemorative glpyhs could not have been put into relief as well. An objective, non-biased observer will notice immediately that those glyphs are non-sequitur with the rest of the workmanship on that statue. I'd love to know what experts have scrutinized those glyphs as being authentic to the proposed provenance.

My take on this is that many of the OK artifacts may have been far more ancient than their currently attributed provenance, and that an adaption society saw those artifacts and made them their own. Pyramids, Spinx, buildings, the relatively small number of statues (compared to later periods). The early dynastics saw these things and repurposed them. As farfetched as this is to some, the alternative -- that these were indeed made during the 4th Dynasty -- is even more farfetched in that there is zero evidence that the tools and methods required to construct that stuff existed at that time. It's not logical to contend the reason we don't see any evidence of the proper tools and methods is that they were all lost. The reason it's illogical is that every other significant aspect of dynastic life has been documented in the glyphs, with the conspicuous exception of tools and building methods to accomplish what has arguable become the things that the AEs are best known for today. That is an enormous conflict that must be reconciled in a rational way. I believe the proposition of an adaption society that inherited the products of a more ancient society reconciles that conflict.


> Though my head spins a little bit, I understand the argument
> you are making, but it seems unbelievable to say the least to
> think that for at least 2,000yrs years one pharaoh after
> another just so happened to adopt all the stuff and likenesses
> of an individual king from a lost civilization from thousands
> of years before their time. So, you have Khafre who has to find
> his own stuff, then Menkaure finds another kings stuff
> including as luck would have it several statues of what are
> obviously the same individual. On and on and on and even by the
> time of Ramses II there is still enough left over that he can
> even find 1,000 ton virgin statues to put his name on. And not
> only that, but according to you all the buildings as well.
> Every amazing stone vase or bowl or statue or building or laser
> like engraving. For thousands of years these stumbling bumbling
> ignorant squatters just keep on squatting completely oblivious
> to the how of the world of artificial stone they enveloped
> themselves in.

I now see why it seemed to be head spinning. I never said I believed that everything we see from AE came from an earlier pre-dynastic civilization. I'm only focusing on the initial monuments during a time when statues of humans were relatively rare, and most of the stone engineering focused on architecture, not art. Meanwhile, I think it's quite possible that the Middle and New Kingdoms achieved the necessary technological advances to do their own stonework as they became influenced by the Romans, Hyksos, Assyrians, etc. In other words, I'm far more skeptical about much of the traditional tenets regarding the Old Kingdom, including Giza, the first, best pyramids, perhaps Edfu & Philae, the Fayum reservoir's regulation of the Nile (not to mention other locations like Baalbek). These are the artifacts which are incompatible with the tools and methods and needs known to exist at the time to which these artifacts have been attributed. That conflict must be reconciled somehow. In these discussions I share my own thoughts about one way to reconcile that conflict.

Some users here seem to think I WANT there to be an earlier civilization; that for some reason I have something against the Dynastics and refuse to believe they could do anything at all. But this is not at all the context of my posts. All I WANT is a credible answer to account for what we see over there, so that we have an accurate understanding of the that part of our beginnings. I have nothing against the Dynastics. I simply want to know about what we see there today, and the traditional thinking is far too problematic to be a credible solution. There must be some other explanation. I realize that some of what I propose seems unlikely, but what's being proposed by traditionalists seems even LESS likely, in my view. What I propose is not contradicted by physical evidence the way some current tenets are contradicted by the evidence. Meanwhile, my perspective of the Old Kingdom is at least possible. I don't believe we can say the same thing about some traditional hypotheses.


> There is no doubt to me Dynastic Egypt is the product of an
> earlier foreign influence, but there is nothing in reality to
> separate them so far in time as to be completely disconnected
> from one another particularly throughout the whole of AE
> history as you wish to do.

Again, think Old Kingdom, not the entire Dynastic era.

The traditionally accepted early timeline (by Lehner) is wrong and needs some major reconciliation.

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Khufu’s Salient Stele 565 Dr. Troglodyte 10-Jan-15 23:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 246 Luminescence 11-Jan-15 00:50
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 279 drew 11-Jan-15 01:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 353 molder 11-Jan-15 08:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 309 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 10:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 230 molder 11-Jan-15 11:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 249 Jon Ellison 11-Jan-15 15:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 253 molder 13-Jan-15 05:18
Re; Egyptian Budgies 262 molder 13-Jan-15 11:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 266 Skatha 19-Jan-15 23:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 261 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 15:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 304 DScribr 11-Jan-15 16:13
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 242 molder 14-Jan-15 22:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 267 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 22:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 286 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 22:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 262 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 22:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 241 sfbey 14-Jan-15 22:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 242 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 23:00
...the one at Giza. n/t 288 cladking 15-Jan-15 01:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 274 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 00:37
Re: Khufu’s painting Scribe 244 DScribr 15-Jan-15 01:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 279 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 22:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 281 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 00:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 256 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 00:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 277 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 296 cladking 15-Jan-15 02:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 274 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 03:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 296 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 00:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 209 DScribr 11-Jan-15 16:04
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 270 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 16:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 230 Jon B 11-Jan-15 15:10
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 312 cladking 11-Jan-15 15:29
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 291 Luminescence 11-Jan-15 16:11
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 278 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 16:36
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 229 DScribr 11-Jan-15 17:06
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 262 Archae Solenhofen 11-Jan-15 18:44
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Cartouche orientation. 337 DScribr 11-Jan-15 16:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 284 Polyfreak 11-Jan-15 17:54
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 249 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 15:09
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 267 cladking 12-Jan-15 15:29
Re:More Documentation Of Ramps. 276 DScribr 12-Jan-15 15:42
Re:More Documentation Of Ramps. 221 cladking 12-Jan-15 15:53
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 303 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:17
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 279 cladking 13-Jan-15 02:17
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 251 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:45
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 284 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 03:50
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 278 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:10
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 277 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:34
Re:Webster's Definition Of Ramps. 243 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:54
Re:Webster's Definition Of Ramps. 257 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 04:07
Re:Webster's Definition Of Ramps. 317 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:16
Re:Documentation Of Ramps. 230 DScribr 13-Jan-15 14:51
Re:Documentation Of Ramps. 294 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 16:24
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 244 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 15:47
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 333 DScribr 12-Jan-15 15:51
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 277 cladking 12-Jan-15 15:59
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 181 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 16:07
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 213 DScribr 12-Jan-15 16:23
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 297 DScribr 12-Jan-15 16:12
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 244 cladking 12-Jan-15 16:37
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 274 sfbey 12-Jan-15 16:44
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 292 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 17:16
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 213 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 17:29
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 251 sfbey 12-Jan-15 17:35
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 290 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 174 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 17:48
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 264 sfbey 12-Jan-15 17:59
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 297 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 19:04
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 300 cladking 12-Jan-15 19:55
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 282 sfbey 12-Jan-15 20:36
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 275 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:55
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 296 cladking 12-Jan-15 20:56
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 282 sfbey 12-Jan-15 21:09
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 178 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 21:21
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 275 sfbey 12-Jan-15 21:35
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 218 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 21:37
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 215 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 21:37
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 273 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 21:40
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 247 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 21:52
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 236 sfbey 12-Jan-15 23:01
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 301 cladking 13-Jan-15 02:14
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 286 sfbey 13-Jan-15 02:43
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 295 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:22
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 256 sfbey 13-Jan-15 13:52
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 253 cladking 13-Jan-15 14:55
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 227 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 16:03
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 281 cladking 13-Jan-15 16:53
Pyramid Lines 239 sfbey 13-Jan-15 03:04
Re: Pyramid Lines 270 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:37
Re: Pyramid Lines 209 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:30
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 320 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 17:47
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 234 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 17:57
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 288 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 18:01
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 299 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 18:16
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 318 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 18:32
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 262 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 18:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 272 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 19:00
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 275 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 19:10
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 257 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 19:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 259 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 19:10
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 222 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 19:01
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 325 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 19:48
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 259 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 19:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 271 Merrell 12-Jan-15 20:08
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 275 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 20:44
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 288 Martin Stower 12-Jan-15 21:43
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 266 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:11
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 233 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 20:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 280 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 233 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 20:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 209 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 294 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 21:02
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 289 Martin Stower 12-Jan-15 22:50
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 236 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 23:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 246 sfbey 12-Jan-15 23:16
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 306 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 23:49
Re: Interpretations NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 295 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 00:03
Re: Interpretations NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 284 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 00:30
Re: Interpretations NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 282 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 334 sfbey 13-Jan-15 01:18
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 295 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:40
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 303 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 23:43
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 306 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 23:57
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 263 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 319 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 00:19
R factual documentation results in misinterpretation. 326 DScribr 13-Jan-15 00:38
Re: R factual documentation results in misinterpretation. 287 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:04
Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 277 DScribr 13-Jan-15 00:47
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 281 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 200 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 278 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 01:44
Not surprised the proof is in his consistency. 207 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:51
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 276 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-15 00:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 282 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:37
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 232 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-15 01:44
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 224 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 01:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 256 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 00:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 187 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 208 DScribr 13-Jan-15 00:31
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 241 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:33
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 252 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 01:37
Re: NO factual Documentation??? 250 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:45
Re: NO factual Documentation??? 237 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 02:31
Re: NO factual Documentation??? 192 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 246 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:10
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 278 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 01:20
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 234 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 01:39
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 276 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 02:24
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 161 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 02:28
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 234 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 02:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 223 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 02:55
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 280 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 03:08
Re: NO factual Documentation, speculation and assumption. 256 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:32
Re: NO factual Documentation, speculation and assumption. 227 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 10:28
Re: Factual Documentation. 198 DScribr 13-Jan-15 14:30
Re: Factual Documentation. 270 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 14:57
Re: Factual Documentation. 242 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 15:57
Re: Factual Documentation. 181 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:51
Re: Factual Documentation. 233 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 15:53
Re: Factual Documentation. 232 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:17
Re: Factual Documentation. 191 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 15:26
Re: Factual Documentation VS Spin. 272 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:46
Re: Factual Documentation. 267 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 16:03
Re: Factual Documentation. 277 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 16:31
Re: Factual Documentation. 273 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 16:51
Re: NO factual Documentation, speculation and assumption. 299 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 240 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-15 16:17
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 275 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 23:37
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 232 sfbey 14-Jan-15 01:48
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 310 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:36
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 312 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 09:59
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 367 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:03
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 258 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 219 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 15:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 272 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:33
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 230 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 15:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 321 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:29
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 194 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 16:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 289 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 17:17
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 212 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:51
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 236 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 17:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 248 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 17:29
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 283 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 18:21
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 249 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 18:38
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 256 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:20
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 276 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 21:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 207 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 18:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 239 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:15
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 268 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:32
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 258 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 17:00
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 192 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 17:27
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 225 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 15:55
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 221 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 285 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:51
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 314 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:56
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 181 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 183 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 16:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 232 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:14
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 288 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:56
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 189 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 14:50
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 304 Scott Creighton 15-Jan-15 00:39
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 179 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 00:48
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 211 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 240 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 02:36
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 168 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 02:08
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 249 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 03:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 162 sfbey 15-Jan-15 04:25
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 267 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 15:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 238 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 01:55
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 241 Scott Creighton 15-Jan-15 10:20
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 265 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 15:30
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 187 cladking 14-Jan-15 02:52
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 246 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 23:18
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 193 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 20:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 255 cladking 12-Jan-15 21:01
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 238 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 22:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 270 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 20:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 156 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 19:11
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 230 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 19:36
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 235 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:07
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 261 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:42
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 224 DScribr 13-Jan-15 02:18
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 263 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:25
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 194 DScribr 13-Jan-15 02:39
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 173 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:46
Re:Factual Documentation, and common-sense. 272 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:26
Re:Factual Documentation, and common-sense. 234 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 03:40
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 208 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 03:49
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 276 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-15 16:27
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 276 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 16:35
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 225 Morten 14-Jan-15 08:48
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 231 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 17:56
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 177 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 18:08
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 212 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 20:52
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 257 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 22:39
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 163 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 23:48
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 301 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:09
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 218 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 01:23
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 252 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 18:11
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 259 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 18:12
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 175 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 20:55
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 192 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:24
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 193 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 21:47
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 235 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 18:26
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 275 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 18:31
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 252 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:11
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 225 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 19:48
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 256 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:59
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 223 DUNE 14-Jan-15 20:03
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 262 sfbey 14-Jan-15 20:10
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 239 DUNE 14-Jan-15 20:14
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 213 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 20:39
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 258 DUNE 14-Jan-15 20:42
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 251 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:08
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 250 sfbey 14-Jan-15 20:54
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 235 DUNE 14-Jan-15 21:24
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 234 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:31
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 285 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 21:38
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 189 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:43
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 244 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 22:16
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 210 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 22:40
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 267 DUNE 14-Jan-15 22:50
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 244 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:17
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 262 sfbey 14-Jan-15 21:47
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 195 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 22:12
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 239 molder 22-Jan-15 12:18
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 217 Merrell 22-Jan-15 13:32
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 284 molder 23-Jan-15 04:23
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 188 Frank D 23-Jan-15 00:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 245 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 16:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 245 DUNE 16-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 267 Thanos5150 16-Jan-15 19:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 215 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 19:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 218 Thanos5150 16-Jan-15 22:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 242 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 22:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 266 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-15 23:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 248 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-15 23:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 286 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-15 23:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 254 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 00:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 166 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 00:13
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 241 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 00:24
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 234 MJT 17-Jan-15 01:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 250 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 02:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 216 cladking 17-Jan-15 01:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 196 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 01:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 263 Thanos5150 20-Jan-15 02:22
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 237 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 05:18
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 205 Thanos5150 20-Jan-15 05:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 261 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 21:16
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 213 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Jan-15 23:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 247 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 00:50
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 215 sfbey 21-Jan-15 02:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 222 Thanos5150 21-Jan-15 06:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 210 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 06:48
Re: Royal Burials 159 Thunderbird 22-Jan-15 17:00
Re: Royal Burials 152 Thanos5150 22-Jan-15 17:29
Re:Sneferu 150 Thunderbird 23-Jan-15 16:47
Re: Serapeum - Gigal 110 Thunderbird 23-Jan-15 18:34
Re: Serapeum - Gigal 134 Martin Stower 25-Jan-15 01:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 200 sfbey 20-Jan-15 02:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 136 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 05:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 102 Skatha 20-Jan-15 05:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 89 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 07:10
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 82 Jon Ellison 20-Jan-15 13:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 71 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 19:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 66 DUNE 20-Jan-15 14:16
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 68 Skatha 20-Jan-15 20:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 74 DUNE 20-Jan-15 20:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 69 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 21:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 68 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 22:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 72 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 20:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 81 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 21:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 55 eyeofhorus33 20-Jan-15 22:13
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 65 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 22:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 88 eyeofhorus33 21-Jan-15 16:04
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 89 DUNE 21-Jan-15 16:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 105 eyeofhorus33 21-Jan-15 16:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 157 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 21:58
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 178 sfbey 21-Jan-15 22:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 125 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 23:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 130 Martin Stower 21-Jan-15 23:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 87 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 02:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 165 Martin Stower 21-Jan-15 23:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 122 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 02:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 208 sfbey 22-Jan-15 02:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 141 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 03:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 110 sfbey 22-Jan-15 04:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 133 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 04:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 191 sfbey 22-Jan-15 12:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 161 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 144 DScribr 23-Jan-15 00:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 112 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 77 DScribr 23-Jan-15 02:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 114 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 65 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 03:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 169 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 03:34
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 163 sfbey 22-Jan-15 03:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 139 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 03:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 113 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 04:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 148 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 04:00
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 56 Merrell 22-Jan-15 11:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 68 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 15:58
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 57 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 94 DUNE 22-Jan-15 17:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 107 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:52
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 141 Audrey 23-Jan-15 00:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 163 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 01:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 188 sfbey 23-Jan-15 02:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 107 Audrey 23-Jan-15 05:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 184 sfbey 23-Jan-15 15:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 151 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 129 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 132 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 80 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 04:28
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 57 DScribr 23-Jan-15 15:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 75 DUNE 23-Jan-15 16:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 52 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 17:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 61 DScribr 23-Jan-15 23:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 106 Thanos5150 22-Jan-15 04:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 72 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 13:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 66 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 110 Merrell 22-Jan-15 17:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 125 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 124 Merrell 22-Jan-15 19:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 119 Jon Ellison 22-Jan-15 20:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 149 sfbey 22-Jan-15 20:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 120 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 21:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 98 Jon Ellison 22-Jan-15 21:23
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 58 Jon Ellison 22-Jan-15 22:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 87 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 21:14
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 78 DScribr 22-Jan-15 23:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 77 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-TOTAL BS, ORI! 83 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-TOTAL BS, ORI! 66 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 04:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-More selective blindness. 64 DScribr 23-Jan-15 05:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-More selective blindness. 92 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 05:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-More selective blindness. 62 DScribr 24-Jan-15 00:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 69 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 01:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 70 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 01:22
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 72 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 01:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 62 Audrey 23-Jan-15 02:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 77 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 02:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 72 Audrey 23-Jan-15 03:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 68 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 10:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 61 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 59 Audrey 23-Jan-15 05:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 70 Thanos5150 23-Jan-15 03:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 62 Audrey 23-Jan-15 04:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 68 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 12:50
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 63 Thanos5150 24-Jan-15 00:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 79 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 03:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 64 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 81 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 11:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 72 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 11:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 86 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 12:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 68 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 22:01
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 60 Martin Stower 24-Jan-15 02:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 86 Scott Creighton 24-Jan-15 10:31
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 57 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 16:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 69 Scott Creighton 24-Jan-15 16:24
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 49 DScribr 24-Jan-15 16:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 63 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 18:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 72 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-15 18:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 104 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 18:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 123 Martin Stower 25-Jan-15 03:16
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 89 Origyptian 25-Jan-15 08:58
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 108 cladking 25-Jan-15 15:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 93 Martin Stower 24-Jan-15 23:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 82 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 21:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-You call this evidence?!? 66 DScribr 24-Jan-15 00:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 73 Martin Stower 24-Jan-15 03:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 69 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 21:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 71 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 22:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 69 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 03:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 68 DScribr 23-Jan-15 04:24
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 56 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 04:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 75 DScribr 23-Jan-15 05:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 60 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 05:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 77 DScribr 23-Jan-15 15:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 78 Skatha 20-Jan-15 23:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 54 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 00:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 90 Martin Stower 21-Jan-15 01:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 57 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 03:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 93 Skatha 20-Jan-15 19:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 106 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 20:10
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 169 sfbey 21-Jan-15 02:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 140 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 03:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 122 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 01:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 82 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 02:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 66 Merrell 22-Jan-15 11:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 73 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 12:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 68 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-another "Forgery" 63 DScribr 22-Jan-15 16:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-another "Forgery" 57 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 89 DScribr 22-Jan-15 16:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 143 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 146 Scott Creighton 22-Jan-15 16:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 143 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 186 sfbey 22-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 178 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:47
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 188 Scott Creighton 22-Jan-15 18:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 108 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 22:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 157 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 22:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 181 sfbey 22-Jan-15 22:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 124 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:18
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 179 sfbey 22-Jan-15 23:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 132 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 150 sfbey 23-Jan-15 01:34
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 157 Scott Creighton 23-Jan-15 09:47
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 158 DScribr 22-Jan-15 16:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 128 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Waffling. 121 DScribr 22-Jan-15 23:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Waffling. 99 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Waffling. 64 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 56 DScribr 16-Jan-15 18:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 63 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 18:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 53 DUNE 16-Jan-15 18:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 75 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 18:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 61 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-15 18:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 67 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 19:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 61 DUNE 16-Jan-15 19:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 90 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 19:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 95 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 21:07
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 87 DUNE 16-Jan-15 21:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 128 sfbey 16-Jan-15 21:37
Obit. 187 sfbey 16-Jan-15 21:45
Re: Obit. 135 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 22:41
Re: Obit. 133 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-15 22:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 113 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-15 20:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 78 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 20:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 67 Sirfiroth 17-Jan-15 13:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 54 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 16:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 87 eyeofhorus33 17-Jan-15 16:22
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 135 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 17:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 105 eyeofhorus33 17-Jan-15 17:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 159 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 120 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 22:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 167 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 146 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 03:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 144 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 08:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 173 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 136 DUNE 17-Jan-15 17:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 129 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 155 Morten 17-Jan-15 17:52
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 110 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 18:01
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 173 Morten 17-Jan-15 18:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 160 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 18:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 131 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 18:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 122 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 18:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 195 Morten 17-Jan-15 18:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 155 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 18:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 119 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 19:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 86 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 21:07
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 76 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 01:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 59 Jon Ellison 18-Jan-15 02:01
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 132 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 03:31
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 141 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 08:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 157 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 17:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 163 sfbey 17-Jan-15 18:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 146 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 18:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 168 sfbey 17-Jan-15 18:31
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 132 Thanos5150 17-Jan-15 19:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 117 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 20:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 65 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 01:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 97 Thanos5150 18-Jan-15 03:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 57 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 01:23
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 73 eyeofhorus33 18-Jan-15 09:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 66 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 09:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 81 MJT 18-Jan-15 18:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 59 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 19:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 66 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 19:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 79 cladking 18-Jan-15 20:18
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 62 Martin Stower 19-Jan-15 00:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 56 cladking 19-Jan-15 00:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 72 Martin Stower 19-Jan-15 01:20
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 71 Jon Ellison 19-Jan-15 09:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 80 cladking 19-Jan-15 15:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 76 Origyptian 19-Jan-15 16:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 67 cladking 19-Jan-15 18:28
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 77 Martin Stower 19-Jan-15 21:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 62 Jon Ellison 20-Jan-15 00:14
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 72 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 01:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 63 Jon Ellison 20-Jan-15 04:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 83 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 14:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 76 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 01:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele..CK, using facts and evidence. 61 DScribr 19-Jan-15 18:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele..CK, using facts and evidence. 92 cladking 19-Jan-15 18:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 117 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 20:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 122 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 17:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 158 sfbey 17-Jan-15 18:14