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Thanos5150 wrote:

> > LIkewise, it's not clear when the Khufu Stela was engraved.
> > It's only clear that the stone is gneiss and could have
> > originated from that area, and was likely not standing in the
> > position Engelbach found it for the past 4500 years.
>
> I agree with this, but I see no reason it couldn't be from the
> 4th Dynasty either. At any point in time someone could have
> come across the stele in the rubble and thought it would be
> cool to prop it up there. Assuming it was not made by
> antiquarian forgers, a question to ask if not from the 4th
> Dynasty then why would it be there at all? What would possess
> someone say in the MK to engrave Khufu's name on it or even
> worse bring it already carved to that location?

As you said, the Khufu Stele "could" be form the 4th Dynasty...but we do not know that for sure. It "could" just as easily be a fragment from a more ancient block. It could have been put there by a few kids as a prop for their role playing game. Can we really say beyond a reasonable doubt?

A 4th Dynasty provenance for that Stele must consider its composition and whether the 4th Dynasty had the tools and methods to work such a stone. The extremely shallow engraving suggests that whoever did the engraving did not have the proper tools to make a deeper cut and, instead, perhaps used a piece of flint or basalt shard lying around to brute force the surface sketch. Also, is that stone a fragment from a larger finished block? The engravings appear to be on a flat planar surface. If so, what technology was required to make such a cut block.

Regarding why anyone in the Middle Kingdom (or any other period) would engrave a reference to "Khufu", perhaps for the same reason anyone would write a book about Winston Churchill, Ghengis Khan, or Santa Claus today? Why would parents today buy a swing set designed with a castle theme? It's fair to assume that later periods knew of "Khufu", had their own history and belief system surrounding Khufu, and reproduced histories, games, stories about Khufu for their children, etc. There is certainly no reason at all to believe that every single cartouche that references Khufu necessarily has a provenance back to the time when a man named Khufu was alive and well. As I said elsewhere in this discussion, a father might have made that as part of his storytelling to his children. Who can say for sure without definitive evidence?


> > From what I've gleaned from posts in this discussion, there is
> > not enough data to reliably assign provenance to the quarry,
> > the Khafre statue, or the Khufu Stela.
>
> Its a particular kind of gneiss though. The answer to this
> question is geologically could it have come from
> somewhere else.

I actually was corrected by Dr. Trog; we apparently do not know for sure whether the Stele is gneiss. It looks more like basalt but I've not actually read anything that indicates this has been determined. sfbey claims that Shaw says it's basalt, but I cannot access the article.


> > If anything, the
> > scarcity of artifacts in the quarry dating it at least across a
> > several millennia of the dynastic period, and the out of
> > character engraving on the Khafre gneiss, and the unlikely
> > positioning of the Khufu Stela, all cast a strong doubt on
> > their alleged provenance.
>
> But there are artifacts representing this whole time period,
> regardless of how scant, implying it was used throughout this
> time. Khufu's name is found as far afield as Byblos among
> others so finding it at an AE gneiss quarry shouldn't be all
> that mysterious. The positioning of the stele doesn't mean it
> wasn't from there just that it is unlikely that was its
> original position. The Khafre engraving isn't out of character
> as on many statues from this period and later you find this
> kind of work. The quality of working in raised relief doesn't
> seem to translate well with engravings on some kinds of stone.

Since the Khafre statue has plenty of precision reliefs, there's no reason to believe that the commemorative glpyhs could not have been put into relief as well. An objective, non-biased observer will notice immediately that those glyphs are non-sequitur with the rest of the workmanship on that statue. I'd love to know what experts have scrutinized those glyphs as being authentic to the proposed provenance.

My take on this is that many of the OK artifacts may have been far more ancient than their currently attributed provenance, and that an adaption society saw those artifacts and made them their own. Pyramids, Spinx, buildings, the relatively small number of statues (compared to later periods). The early dynastics saw these things and repurposed them. As farfetched as this is to some, the alternative -- that these were indeed made during the 4th Dynasty -- is even more farfetched in that there is zero evidence that the tools and methods required to construct that stuff existed at that time. It's not logical to contend the reason we don't see any evidence of the proper tools and methods is that they were all lost. The reason it's illogical is that every other significant aspect of dynastic life has been documented in the glyphs, with the conspicuous exception of tools and building methods to accomplish what has arguable become the things that the AEs are best known for today. That is an enormous conflict that must be reconciled in a rational way. I believe the proposition of an adaption society that inherited the products of a more ancient society reconciles that conflict.


> Though my head spins a little bit, I understand the argument
> you are making, but it seems unbelievable to say the least to
> think that for at least 2,000yrs years one pharaoh after
> another just so happened to adopt all the stuff and likenesses
> of an individual king from a lost civilization from thousands
> of years before their time. So, you have Khafre who has to find
> his own stuff, then Menkaure finds another kings stuff
> including as luck would have it several statues of what are
> obviously the same individual. On and on and on and even by the
> time of Ramses II there is still enough left over that he can
> even find 1,000 ton virgin statues to put his name on. And not
> only that, but according to you all the buildings as well.
> Every amazing stone vase or bowl or statue or building or laser
> like engraving. For thousands of years these stumbling bumbling
> ignorant squatters just keep on squatting completely oblivious
> to the how of the world of artificial stone they enveloped
> themselves in.

I now see why it seemed to be head spinning. I never said I believed that everything we see from AE came from an earlier pre-dynastic civilization. I'm only focusing on the initial monuments during a time when statues of humans were relatively rare, and most of the stone engineering focused on architecture, not art. Meanwhile, I think it's quite possible that the Middle and New Kingdoms achieved the necessary technological advances to do their own stonework as they became influenced by the Romans, Hyksos, Assyrians, etc. In other words, I'm far more skeptical about much of the traditional tenets regarding the Old Kingdom, including Giza, the first, best pyramids, perhaps Edfu & Philae, the Fayum reservoir's regulation of the Nile (not to mention other locations like Baalbek). These are the artifacts which are incompatible with the tools and methods and needs known to exist at the time to which these artifacts have been attributed. That conflict must be reconciled somehow. In these discussions I share my own thoughts about one way to reconcile that conflict.

Some users here seem to think I WANT there to be an earlier civilization; that for some reason I have something against the Dynastics and refuse to believe they could do anything at all. But this is not at all the context of my posts. All I WANT is a credible answer to account for what we see over there, so that we have an accurate understanding of the that part of our beginnings. I have nothing against the Dynastics. I simply want to know about what we see there today, and the traditional thinking is far too problematic to be a credible solution. There must be some other explanation. I realize that some of what I propose seems unlikely, but what's being proposed by traditionalists seems even LESS likely, in my view. What I propose is not contradicted by physical evidence the way some current tenets are contradicted by the evidence. Meanwhile, my perspective of the Old Kingdom is at least possible. I don't believe we can say the same thing about some traditional hypotheses.


> There is no doubt to me Dynastic Egypt is the product of an
> earlier foreign influence, but there is nothing in reality to
> separate them so far in time as to be completely disconnected
> from one another particularly throughout the whole of AE
> history as you wish to do.

Again, think Old Kingdom, not the entire Dynastic era.

The traditionally accepted early timeline (by Lehner) is wrong and needs some major reconciliation.

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Khufu’s Salient Stele 617 Dr. Troglodyte 10-Jan-15 23:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 279 Luminescence 11-Jan-15 00:50
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 309 drew 11-Jan-15 01:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 410 molder 11-Jan-15 08:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 356 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 10:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 285 molder 11-Jan-15 11:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 281 Jon Ellison 11-Jan-15 15:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 285 molder 13-Jan-15 05:18
Re; Egyptian Budgies 301 molder 13-Jan-15 11:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 302 Skatha 19-Jan-15 23:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 316 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 15:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 351 DScribr 11-Jan-15 16:13
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 271 molder 14-Jan-15 22:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 309 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 22:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 328 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 22:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 302 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 22:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 276 sfbey 14-Jan-15 22:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 277 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 23:00
...the one at Giza. n/t 350 cladking 15-Jan-15 01:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 317 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 00:37
Re: Khufu’s painting Scribe 282 DScribr 15-Jan-15 01:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 327 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 22:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 334 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 00:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 328 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 00:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 311 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 333 cladking 15-Jan-15 02:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 310 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 03:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 345 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 00:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 239 DScribr 11-Jan-15 16:04
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 312 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 16:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 280 Jon B 11-Jan-15 15:10
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 353 cladking 11-Jan-15 15:29
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 342 Luminescence 11-Jan-15 16:11
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 327 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-15 16:36
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 262 DScribr 11-Jan-15 17:06
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 304 Archae Solenhofen 11-Jan-15 18:44
Re: Campbells ??? Khufu’s Cartouche orientation. 359 DScribr 11-Jan-15 16:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 308 Polyfreak 11-Jan-15 17:54
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 280 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 15:09
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 304 cladking 12-Jan-15 15:29
Re:More Documentation Of Ramps. 311 DScribr 12-Jan-15 15:42
Re:More Documentation Of Ramps. 282 cladking 12-Jan-15 15:53
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 358 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:17
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 323 cladking 13-Jan-15 02:17
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 282 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:45
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 311 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 03:50
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 342 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:10
Re:EVEN More Documentation Of Ramps. 313 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:34
Re:Webster's Definition Of Ramps. 280 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:54
Re:Webster's Definition Of Ramps. 294 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 04:07
Re:Webster's Definition Of Ramps. 350 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:16
Re:Documentation Of Ramps. 269 DScribr 13-Jan-15 14:51
Re:Documentation Of Ramps. 337 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 16:24
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 274 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 15:47
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 376 DScribr 12-Jan-15 15:51
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 334 cladking 12-Jan-15 15:59
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 232 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 16:07
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 258 DScribr 12-Jan-15 16:23
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 329 DScribr 12-Jan-15 16:12
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 283 cladking 12-Jan-15 16:37
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 315 sfbey 12-Jan-15 16:44
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 335 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 17:16
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 255 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 17:29
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 289 sfbey 12-Jan-15 17:35
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 348 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 222 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 17:48
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 313 sfbey 12-Jan-15 17:59
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 340 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 19:04
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 334 cladking 12-Jan-15 19:55
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 314 sfbey 12-Jan-15 20:36
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 322 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:55
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 340 cladking 12-Jan-15 20:56
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 333 sfbey 12-Jan-15 21:09
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 211 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 21:21
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 320 sfbey 12-Jan-15 21:35
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 233 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 21:37
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 257 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 21:37
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 302 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 21:40
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 293 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 21:52
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 275 sfbey 12-Jan-15 23:01
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 352 cladking 13-Jan-15 02:14
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 338 sfbey 13-Jan-15 02:43
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 327 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:22
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 284 sfbey 13-Jan-15 13:52
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 310 cladking 13-Jan-15 14:55
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 258 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 16:03
Re: Documentation Khufu’s Salient Stele 319 cladking 13-Jan-15 16:53
Pyramid Lines 276 sfbey 13-Jan-15 03:04
Re: Pyramid Lines 307 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:37
Re: Pyramid Lines 244 cladking 13-Jan-15 05:30
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 356 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 17:47
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 282 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 17:57
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 328 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 18:01
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 333 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 18:16
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 364 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 18:32
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 322 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 18:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 329 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 19:00
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 307 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 19:10
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 300 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 19:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 305 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 19:10
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 265 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 19:01
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 366 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 19:48
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 305 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 19:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 307 Merrell 12-Jan-15 20:08
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 311 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 20:44
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 336 Martin Stower 12-Jan-15 21:43
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 297 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:11
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 269 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 20:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 314 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 264 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 20:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 244 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 20:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 320 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-15 21:02
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 337 Martin Stower 12-Jan-15 22:50
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 273 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 23:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 280 sfbey 12-Jan-15 23:16
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 371 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 23:49
Re: Interpretations NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 331 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 00:03
Re: Interpretations NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 318 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 00:30
Re: Interpretations NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 313 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 376 sfbey 13-Jan-15 01:18
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 332 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:40
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 348 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-15 23:43
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 341 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 23:57
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 296 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 366 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 00:19
R factual documentation results in misinterpretation. 360 DScribr 13-Jan-15 00:38
Re: R factual documentation results in misinterpretation. 319 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:04
Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 318 DScribr 13-Jan-15 00:47
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 323 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 238 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele. The proof is in his consistency. 323 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 01:44
Not surprised the proof is in his consistency. 243 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:51
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 311 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-15 00:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 320 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:37
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 271 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-15 01:44
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 252 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 01:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 287 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 00:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 226 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 238 DScribr 13-Jan-15 00:31
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 284 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 00:33
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 279 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 01:37
Re: NO factual Documentation??? 281 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:45
Re: NO factual Documentation??? 287 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 02:31
Re: NO factual Documentation??? 223 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 284 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:10
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 320 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 01:20
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 262 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 01:39
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 315 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 02:24
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 197 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 02:28
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 274 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 02:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 248 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 02:55
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 315 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 03:08
Re: NO factual Documentation, speculation and assumption. 280 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:32
Re: NO factual Documentation, speculation and assumption. 258 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 10:28
Re: Factual Documentation. 247 DScribr 13-Jan-15 14:30
Re: Factual Documentation. 299 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-15 14:57
Re: Factual Documentation. 272 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 15:57
Re: Factual Documentation. 211 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:51
Re: Factual Documentation. 260 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 15:53
Re: Factual Documentation. 267 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:17
Re: Factual Documentation. 231 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 15:26
Re: Factual Documentation VS Spin. 305 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:46
Re: Factual Documentation. 308 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 16:03
Re: Factual Documentation. 319 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 16:31
Re: Factual Documentation. 310 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 16:51
Re: NO factual Documentation, speculation and assumption. 339 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 275 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-15 16:17
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 322 Martin Stower 13-Jan-15 23:37
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 264 sfbey 14-Jan-15 01:48
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 342 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:36
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 350 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 09:59
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 412 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 14:03
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 297 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 252 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 15:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 313 DScribr 14-Jan-15 15:33
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 264 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 15:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 348 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:29
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 225 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 16:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 328 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 17:17
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 247 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:51
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 280 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 17:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 313 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 17:29
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 317 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 18:21
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 292 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 18:38
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 285 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:20
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 307 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 21:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 245 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 18:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 284 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:15
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 311 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:32
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 288 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 17:00
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 231 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 17:27
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 276 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 15:55
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 253 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:06
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 320 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:51
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 361 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:56
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 214 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 209 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 16:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 258 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 16:14
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 327 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 16:56
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 216 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 14:50
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 340 Scott Creighton 15-Jan-15 00:39
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 210 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 00:48
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 243 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:22
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 266 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 02:36
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 199 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 02:08
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 276 Jon Ellison 15-Jan-15 03:53
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 202 sfbey 15-Jan-15 04:25
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 300 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 15:09
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 262 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 01:55
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 267 Scott Creighton 15-Jan-15 10:20
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 297 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 15:30
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 224 cladking 14-Jan-15 02:52
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 274 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 23:18
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 231 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 20:34
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 299 cladking 12-Jan-15 21:01
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 282 Origyptian 12-Jan-15 22:49
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 309 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 20:46
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 184 Luminescence 12-Jan-15 19:11
Re: NO factual Documentation??? Khufu’s Salient Stele 265 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-15 19:36
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 267 DScribr 13-Jan-15 01:07
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 294 Luminescence 13-Jan-15 01:42
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 261 DScribr 13-Jan-15 02:18
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 293 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:25
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 237 DScribr 13-Jan-15 02:39
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 224 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 02:46
Re:Factual Documentation, and common-sense. 314 DScribr 13-Jan-15 03:26
Re:Factual Documentation, and common-sense. 273 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 03:40
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 253 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 03:49
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 320 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-15 16:27
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 340 Origyptian 13-Jan-15 16:35
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 260 Morten 14-Jan-15 08:48
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 273 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 17:56
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 208 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 18:08
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 247 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 20:52
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 280 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 22:39
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 187 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 23:48
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 335 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:09
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 259 Martin Stower 15-Jan-15 01:23
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 293 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 18:11
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 296 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 18:12
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 226 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-15 20:55
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 233 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:24
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 237 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 21:47
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 251 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 18:26
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 301 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 18:31
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 278 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:11
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 251 Scott Creighton 14-Jan-15 19:48
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 285 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 19:59
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 264 DUNE 14-Jan-15 20:03
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 313 sfbey 14-Jan-15 20:10
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 273 DUNE 14-Jan-15 20:14
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 239 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 20:39
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 298 DUNE 14-Jan-15 20:42
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 282 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:08
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 285 sfbey 14-Jan-15 20:54
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 276 DUNE 14-Jan-15 21:24
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 260 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:31
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 322 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 21:38
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 222 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 21:43
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 280 Origyptian 14-Jan-15 22:16
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 247 Jon Ellison 14-Jan-15 22:40
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 301 DUNE 14-Jan-15 22:50
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 279 Origyptian 15-Jan-15 01:17
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 289 sfbey 14-Jan-15 21:47
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 241 Martin Stower 14-Jan-15 22:12
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 281 molder 22-Jan-15 12:18
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 259 Merrell 22-Jan-15 13:32
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 314 molder 23-Jan-15 04:23
Re:Factual Documentation, For CD. 217 Frank D 23-Jan-15 00:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 278 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 16:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 276 DUNE 16-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 296 Thanos5150 16-Jan-15 19:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 251 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 19:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 251 Thanos5150 16-Jan-15 22:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 273 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 22:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 301 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-15 23:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 275 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-15 23:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 319 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-15 23:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 294 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 00:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 206 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 00:13
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 271 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 00:24
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 280 MJT 17-Jan-15 01:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 278 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 02:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 253 cladking 17-Jan-15 01:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 220 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 01:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 300 Thanos5150 20-Jan-15 02:22
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 265 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 05:18
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 246 Thanos5150 20-Jan-15 05:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 299 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 21:16
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 238 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Jan-15 23:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 273 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 00:50
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 243 sfbey 21-Jan-15 02:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 256 Thanos5150 21-Jan-15 06:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 246 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 06:48
Re: Royal Burials 208 Thunderbird 22-Jan-15 17:00
Re: Royal Burials 200 Thanos5150 22-Jan-15 17:29
Re:Sneferu 184 Thunderbird 23-Jan-15 16:47
Re: Serapeum - Gigal 146 Thunderbird 23-Jan-15 18:34
Re: Serapeum - Gigal 175 Martin Stower 25-Jan-15 01:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 253 sfbey 20-Jan-15 02:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 165 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 05:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 149 Skatha 20-Jan-15 05:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 129 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 07:10
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 123 Jon Ellison 20-Jan-15 13:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 114 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 19:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 94 DUNE 20-Jan-15 14:16
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 103 Skatha 20-Jan-15 20:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 105 DUNE 20-Jan-15 20:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 104 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 21:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 98 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 22:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 120 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 20:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 121 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 21:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 81 eyeofhorus33 20-Jan-15 22:13
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 92 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 22:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 116 eyeofhorus33 21-Jan-15 16:04
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 118 DUNE 21-Jan-15 16:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 134 eyeofhorus33 21-Jan-15 16:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 220 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 21:58
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 222 sfbey 21-Jan-15 22:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 154 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 23:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 167 Martin Stower 21-Jan-15 23:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 114 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 02:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 216 Martin Stower 21-Jan-15 23:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 178 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 02:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 240 sfbey 22-Jan-15 02:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 181 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 03:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 135 sfbey 22-Jan-15 04:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 184 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 04:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 238 sfbey 22-Jan-15 12:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 199 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 195 DScribr 23-Jan-15 00:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 142 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 105 DScribr 23-Jan-15 02:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 145 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-False inferences. 92 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 03:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 208 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 03:34
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 201 sfbey 22-Jan-15 03:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 174 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 03:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 175 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 04:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 195 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 04:00
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 86 Merrell 22-Jan-15 11:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 101 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 15:58
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 104 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 124 DUNE 22-Jan-15 17:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 154 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:52
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 167 Audrey 23-Jan-15 00:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 231 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 01:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 241 sfbey 23-Jan-15 02:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 159 Audrey 23-Jan-15 05:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 212 sfbey 23-Jan-15 15:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 194 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 165 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 163 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 121 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 04:28
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 84 DScribr 23-Jan-15 15:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 105 DUNE 23-Jan-15 16:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 80 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 17:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Evidence dismissed, again! 91 DScribr 23-Jan-15 23:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 142 Thanos5150 22-Jan-15 04:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 121 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 13:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 100 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 142 Merrell 22-Jan-15 17:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 167 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 162 Merrell 22-Jan-15 19:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 148 Jon Ellison 22-Jan-15 20:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 191 sfbey 22-Jan-15 20:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 175 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 21:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 157 Jon Ellison 22-Jan-15 21:23
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 86 Jon Ellison 22-Jan-15 22:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 115 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 21:14
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 116 DScribr 22-Jan-15 23:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 105 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-TOTAL BS, ORI! 108 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-TOTAL BS, ORI! 107 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 04:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-More selective blindness. 109 DScribr 23-Jan-15 05:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-More selective blindness. 137 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 05:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-More selective blindness. 83 DScribr 24-Jan-15 00:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 99 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 01:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 118 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 01:22
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 98 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 01:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 93 Audrey 23-Jan-15 02:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 106 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 02:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 108 Audrey 23-Jan-15 03:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 111 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 10:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 97 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 85 Audrey 23-Jan-15 05:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 99 Thanos5150 23-Jan-15 03:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 100 Audrey 23-Jan-15 04:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 98 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 12:50
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 102 Thanos5150 24-Jan-15 00:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 125 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 03:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 95 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 03:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 117 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 11:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 104 Jon Ellison 23-Jan-15 11:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 116 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 12:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 91 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 22:01
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 87 Martin Stower 24-Jan-15 02:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 119 Scott Creighton 24-Jan-15 10:31
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 85 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 16:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 111 Scott Creighton 24-Jan-15 16:24
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 73 DScribr 24-Jan-15 16:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 102 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 18:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 109 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-15 18:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 135 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 18:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 163 Martin Stower 25-Jan-15 03:16
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 148 Origyptian 25-Jan-15 08:58
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 154 cladking 25-Jan-15 15:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 121 Martin Stower 24-Jan-15 23:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 114 Origyptian 24-Jan-15 21:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-You call this evidence?!? 104 DScribr 24-Jan-15 00:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Accepting First-Hand Reporting. 113 Martin Stower 24-Jan-15 03:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 96 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 21:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 110 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 22:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 111 Martin Stower 23-Jan-15 03:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 113 DScribr 23-Jan-15 04:24
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 95 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 04:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 123 DScribr 23-Jan-15 05:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 98 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 05:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Attested and authentic 4th Dynasty. 104 DScribr 23-Jan-15 15:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 135 Skatha 20-Jan-15 23:08
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 76 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 00:26
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 137 Martin Stower 21-Jan-15 01:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 88 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 03:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 130 Skatha 20-Jan-15 19:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 149 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 20:10
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 203 sfbey 21-Jan-15 02:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 174 Origyptian 21-Jan-15 03:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 163 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 01:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 111 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 02:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 126 Merrell 22-Jan-15 11:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 113 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 12:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele 119 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-another "Forgery" 121 DScribr 22-Jan-15 16:42
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-another "Forgery" 101 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:30
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 120 DScribr 22-Jan-15 16:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 184 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 16:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 173 Scott Creighton 22-Jan-15 16:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 174 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 222 sfbey 22-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 238 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:47
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 224 Scott Creighton 22-Jan-15 18:17
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 140 Martin Stower 22-Jan-15 22:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 199 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 22:29
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 221 sfbey 22-Jan-15 22:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 187 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:18
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 214 sfbey 22-Jan-15 23:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 162 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 177 sfbey 23-Jan-15 01:34
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Saite Period Provenance? 184 Scott Creighton 23-Jan-15 09:47
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 202 DScribr 22-Jan-15 16:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Thuggery 162 Origyptian 22-Jan-15 17:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Waffling. 167 DScribr 22-Jan-15 23:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Waffling. 145 Origyptian 23-Jan-15 00:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele-Pathological Waffling. 101 DScribr 23-Jan-15 03:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 95 DScribr 16-Jan-15 18:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 91 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 18:46
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 87 DUNE 16-Jan-15 18:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 110 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 18:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 89 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-15 18:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 97 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 19:05
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 101 DUNE 16-Jan-15 19:41
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 126 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 19:55
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 142 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 21:07
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 130 DUNE 16-Jan-15 21:33
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 164 sfbey 16-Jan-15 21:37
Obit. 218 sfbey 16-Jan-15 21:45
Re: Obit. 187 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 22:41
Re: Obit. 200 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-15 22:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 150 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-15 20:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 104 Origyptian 16-Jan-15 20:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 101 Sirfiroth 17-Jan-15 13:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 77 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 16:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 137 eyeofhorus33 17-Jan-15 16:22
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 168 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 17:36
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 146 eyeofhorus33 17-Jan-15 17:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 187 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:53
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 201 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 22:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 187 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 200 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 03:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 196 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 08:19
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 242 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:11
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 184 DUNE 17-Jan-15 17:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 173 sfbey 17-Jan-15 17:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 198 Morten 17-Jan-15 17:52
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 143 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 18:01
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 228 Morten 17-Jan-15 18:15
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 196 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 18:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 177 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 18:27
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 166 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 18:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 237 Morten 17-Jan-15 18:38
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 199 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 18:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 177 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 19:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 114 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 21:07
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 128 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 01:54
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 110 Jon Ellison 18-Jan-15 02:01
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 161 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 03:31
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 166 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 08:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 184 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 17:59
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 204 sfbey 17-Jan-15 18:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 185 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 18:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 211 sfbey 17-Jan-15 18:31
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 163 Thanos5150 17-Jan-15 19:02
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 161 Origyptian 17-Jan-15 20:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 107 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 01:37
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 130 Thanos5150 18-Jan-15 03:06
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 106 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 01:23
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 114 eyeofhorus33 18-Jan-15 09:03
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 88 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 09:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 121 MJT 18-Jan-15 18:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 110 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 19:35
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 130 Martin Stower 18-Jan-15 19:49
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 103 cladking 18-Jan-15 20:18
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 93 Martin Stower 19-Jan-15 00:09
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 84 cladking 19-Jan-15 00:25
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 99 Martin Stower 19-Jan-15 01:20
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 99 Jon Ellison 19-Jan-15 09:32
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 107 cladking 19-Jan-15 15:48
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 106 Origyptian 19-Jan-15 16:45
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 99 cladking 19-Jan-15 18:28
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 118 Martin Stower 19-Jan-15 21:40
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 95 Jon Ellison 20-Jan-15 00:14
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 117 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 01:57
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 87 Jon Ellison 20-Jan-15 04:51
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 119 Martin Stower 20-Jan-15 14:56
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 109 Origyptian 20-Jan-15 01:39
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele..CK, using facts and evidence. 103 DScribr 19-Jan-15 18:12
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele..CK, using facts and evidence. 127 cladking 19-Jan-15 18:44
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 144 Origyptian 18-Jan-15 20:21
Re: Khufu’s Salient Stele...It seems very problematic to consider 155 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-15 17:59
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