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Scott Creighton wrote:

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GR: I see that Perring does indeed have the 2 dots but
> Vyse does not in their publications.
>
> SC: Which appears to me that Perring was in two minds as
> regards these two particular dots, at first appearing to agree
> with Vyse and Hill and then later changing his mind.

So he looked at them and thought they were part of the design.

> Given the abundance of these paint spots within and outwith
> this cartouche, it simply makes no sense why anyone
> could think those particular two spots were of any more
> significance than any of the others we observe.

Except Perring must have thought so or he would not have published them. Vyse on the other hand decided the two dots were not part of the design and dropped them.

>Of course, if
> these had been observed in a cartouche elsewhere and were the
> ONLY two markings under the snake glyph (i.e. there were no
> other splashes of paint to be seen) then it is easy to see in
> that circumstance why Vyse & Hill might have thought they were
> actually part of the king's name and hence why they would have
> copied them into their faked Khufu cartouche they inscribed
> onto the gabled trussing in Campbell's Chamber.

Another cartouche with dots is not in evidence so just making one up to fit your theory is not cricket.


>Perhaps Perring
> was initially persuaded by Vyse/Hill of the significance of
> those two dots (hence why they are in Perring's initial
> drawing) but later, perhaps after Vyse left Egypt, Perring had
> another look and changed his mind.

Maybe. But then you are admitting that Perring seeing the dots, even with other dots present still thought they belonged in the design or out of caution included them because he could see them.

>Speculation here, of course,
> but, as stated, it simply makes no sense that anyone could see
> these particular spots of paint as having nay more significance
> than any of the others.

And yet apparently Perring, Vyse and Hill did. On many of the photographs the 2 dots do seem more prominent under certain lighting than they may be in fact. They may initially have been included when Vyse and Hill looked at them because they were expecting to see a Khnum ram and with so many of the inscriptions in bad shape they may have thought the two dots were remnants of the ram.

> SC
>

>
> Post Edited (07-Sep-14 22:44)



Post Edited (08-Sep-14 00:40)

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Re: About Those Two Dots.... 189 Martin Stower 10-Sep-14 00:27
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...Vyse is showing THREE dots... 192 Skatha 10-Sep-14 15:31
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Re: ...Vyse is showing THREE dots... 243 Scott Creighton 10-Sep-14 15:55
Re: ...Vyse is showing THREE dots... 174 Skatha 10-Sep-14 17:33
Re: ...Vyse is showing THREE dots... 188 Scott Creighton 10-Sep-14 18:09
Re: ...Vyse is showing THREE dots... 162 Skatha 10-Sep-14 23:54
Re: ...Vyse is showing THREE dots... 203 Scott Creighton 11-Sep-14 08:49
Re: ...Vyse is showing THREE dots... 171 Skatha 11-Sep-14 15:06


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